Cannot believe how that American cop acted......! - Page 3

diamond · 07-10-2002, 08:22 PM

Brother Someone-
Its been settled.
Bad Coffee..Mr PoliceMan was a victim of bad coffee

Just kidding

It was wrong ..
Sincerely-
DB9

Miss MacPhisto · 07-10-2002, 08:45 PM

I was surprised to find this topic on the forum, as police brutality is so common here.
This was bad, but not nearly as bad as it gets. Nearly everyone is suspicious of cops here, and rightly so.
I avoid them, although I have run into a few very sweet and funny ones lately, like the traffic cop who "threatened" to give me a ticket the other day for walking too fast!

.
But you cant trust them.

And there is much racism torwards whites as well as blacks.

This cop should of course be fired, but its important to remember that there are sooooo many cases much worse than this one that we dont even here about...

Giant Lemon · 07-10-2002, 09:00 PM

Wow, I'm surprised the story was reported in countries other than the US- it must give everyone a real nice view of the US!

Anyway, it's a shame that some cops abuse their authority like this. And we only ever hear about the brutality that was caught on tape- just think of how many instances go unreported because there's no real evidence. Like Wanderer said, I really don't know why anyone would want to be a cop in an area like that. They're brave for taking on those jobs- maybe they hope to make a difference, but it seems like it's only getting worse.

dream wanderer · 07-10-2002, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giant Lemon
Wow, I'm surprised the story was reported in countries other than the US- it must give everyone a real nice view of the US!

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hey...like I said in my earlier post...at least now its being reported ...there was a time within my memory when stuff like this would get swept under the carpet completely....no one would know....

Its out in the open now...and they can't hide. I think its good the world knows...no more secrets..

dream wanderer

Clark W. Griswold, Jr · 07-11-2002, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bono's American Wife

This is one of the few "cop myths" that my husband will admit to

LOL- when was the last time you heard of a donut shop being robbed? Those places are the safest, best "patroled" businesses in the world.

diamond · 07-12-2002, 12:53 AM

UPDATE ON CNN.
The cops Attorney said-

His client -the cop, after grappling w the young feller and being assaulted TWICE and receiving injuries on his neck and face,(blood on cop's face) the suspect still refused to co-operate w/the police.

When they brought him to the trunk of the squad car he PURPOSELY buckled his legs and REFUSED to STAND UP STRIAGHT.

His inaction and REFUSAL to obey a lawful request forced the policeman to be firmer and they had to lift him and pushed him hard onto the trunk.

Sometimes I see they things on NYPD..oh dear.

While this was occuring the suspect PUNCHED THE POLICEMAN in the GROIN w/one of his hancuffed hands

This is when the policeman that had the bad coffee slugged him.

Never hit any fellow in the nuts esp when youre going to jail.

Again ppl lets NOT rush to judgement...
Thank You-
DB9

Angela Harlem · 07-12-2002, 04:42 AM

The use of force doesn't have to be violent Diamond. It is called restraint.
So does anyone really know what happened yet?

diamond · 07-12-2002, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Angela Harlem
The use of force doesn't have to be violent Diamond. It is called restraint.
So does anyone really know what happened yet?

Angela

Angela-
If you read the whole thread, both sides of the story are contained there:idea:
Also read the related thread on the videotaper being arrested:idea:
It might shed some more light for you.:idea:

I still say you should NEVER hit another fellow in THE NUTS as it causes INVOLUNTARY VOILENT reactions, esp when the fellow w/the crunched NUTS is an a position of authority.

DB9

adamswildhoney · 07-12-2002, 10:22 AM

I think it terrible how some cops treat people, but as long as people dont say anything about the way that were treated nothing is going to ever happen and even if they did nothing would happen because people wouldnt believe the person any ways.

BAW · 07-12-2002, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond
UPDATE ON CNN.
The cops Attorney said-

His client -the cop, after grappling w the young feller and being assaulted TWICE and receiving injuries on his neck and face,(blood on cop's face) the suspect still refused to co-operate w/the police.

When they brought him to the trunk of the squad car he PURPOSELY buckled his legs and REFUSED to STAND UP STRIAGHT.

His inaction and REFUSAL to obey a lawful request forced the policeman to be firmer and they had to lift him and pushed him hard onto the trunk.

Sometimes I see they things on NYPD..oh dear.

While this was occuring the suspect PUNCHED THE POLICEMAN in the GROIN w/one of his hancuffed hands
This is when the policeman that had the bad coffee slugged him.

Never hit any fellow in the nuts esp when youre going to jail.

Again ppl lets NOT rush to judgement...
Thank You-
DB9

Refusing to stand after being handcuffed is quite common and an officer is trained to handle this, with APPROPRIATE force.

The officer's own attorney gave an interview last night and said the suspect "squeezed" the officer's testicles...not punched.

A retired LAPD captain has revied the tape and said in his opinion, it would have been very unlikely for the suspcect to have grabbed the officer's testicles at the angle the suspect was laying and from where the officer was standing.

Did you also see on the tape where the officer lifted his fist to punch the suspect a second time but the other officers restrained him?

And on a side note...Even though I think the officer was completely wrong and overstepped his authority, I don't think the 16 year old deserves millions of dollars for this ie. the federal lawsuit filed yesterday. I also think that today's planned march, headed by the Rev. Dr. Al Sharpton is going to hurt the kid's case more than it will help it.

diamond · 07-12-2002, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bono's American Wife

, with APPROPRIATE force.

The officer's own attorney gave an interview last night and said the suspect "squeezed" the officer's testicles...not punched.

Did you also see on the tape where the officer lifted his fist to punch the suspect a second time but the other officers restrained him?

, I don't think the 16 year old deserves millions of dollars for this ie. the federal lawsuit filed yesterday. I also think that today's planned march, headed by the Rev. Dr. Al Sharpton is going to hurt the kid's case more than it will help it.

Bonos Am Wife-

Things like this happen sometimes when you get near a fellow's genitals. Its a unvolutaring action for some of us guys.. He shouldnt bumped groped or unintenionally grazed his privates.

Also-
IT IS CLEARLY TRANSPARENT HERE about the suspect's motives are..ie-..MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR lawsuit.

Are you ppl getting the picture yet?
Only in America.
Thanks-
Db9

DrTeeth · 07-12-2002, 11:24 AM

Is there any evidence that the boy grabbed the guys testicles?

Lemonite · 07-12-2002, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bono's American Wife

I also think that today's planned march, headed by the Rev. Dr. Al Sharpton is going to hurt the kid's case more than it will help it.

The Gen. Rev. Dr. Mrs. Philosophical Idiot Sharpton always hurts the case. And no it's not just his nappy hair.

L.Unplugged

Angela Harlem · 07-13-2002, 04:03 AM

Ah....yes......Ok. Diamond, i have indeed read this entire thread. All I have read though are 2 sides to the story. Conflicting supporting articles for whoever it is in favour of. Doesn't equal the truth.

And please, please dont tell me a kick/hit/pinch/punch in the Jatz Crackers justifies a violent reaction. Bloody hell you guys are big skirts, you'd fair dinkum swear to God you lot (the male species) are the only ones to have such a highly sensitive area.

From all the reports that have been presented, I'd say the kid was wrong with a few things and so was the cop.

Re: Cop, it comes back to restraint.

diamond · 07-13-2002, 11:42 AM

But he hit em in the CRACKERS

DB9

Salome · 07-13-2002, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamond
But he hit em in the CRACKERS
DB9

but he is an officer of the LAW

U2Bama · 07-13-2002, 12:50 PM

From what I have seen of the video, the police officer used too much force. Also, I believe they only pulled up the warrants on the photographer to get back at him for happening to film it. I am curious as to why the police departments wanted the original videotape IMMEDIATELY after the incident occurred? Did they want to erase it? That is a bit suspicious to me.

That being said, let me warn ALL of you if you ever meet me in person: DO NOT EVER TOUCH ME IN THAT BIOLOGICAL AREA. It ALWAYS incites a violent, reflexive reaction from me and you are likely to get kicked, punched, etc., I don't care if you are Bono, the Pope, or Barney the Dinosaur - I will automatically do something to hurt you. I am not a cop so you cannot use any of those "LAW" charges against me. It is stupid (and cheap) for a suspect to attack that area and not expect SOME retribution.

~U2Alabama

Angela Harlem · 07-14-2002, 04:47 AM

*Note to self*
~If I ever meet Bama, refrain from touching his genital area~

07-10-2002, 08:22 PM	#41
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:16 PM	Brother Someone- Its been settled. Bad Coffee..Mr PoliceMan was a victim of bad coffee Just kidding It was wrong .. Sincerely- DB9 __________________

07-10-2002, 08:45 PM	#42
Miss MacPhisto Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Planet Pleba Posts: 1,957 Local Time: 07:16 PM	I was surprised to find this topic on the forum, as police brutality is so common here. This was bad, but not nearly as bad as it gets. Nearly everyone is suspicious of cops here, and rightly so. I avoid them, although I have run into a few very sweet and funny ones lately, like the traffic cop who "threatened" to give me a ticket the other day for walking too fast! . But you cant trust them. And there is much racism torwards whites as well as blacks. This cop should of course be fired, but its important to remember that there are sooooo many cases much worse than this one that we dont even here about... __________________ __________________ ".....People of America - SHUSH-........." "Well you tell...Bonovista,that i said hello and that my codename is Belleview" - Bono before opening night of Anaheim Elevation concert Well tonight thank God it's them, instead of you... ^^ Life's a bitch, so i became one ^^

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Angela Harlem Jesus Online Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: a glass castle Posts: 30,163 Local Time: 02:16 PM	Note to self ~If I ever meet Bama, refrain from touching his genital area~ __________________

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07-10-2002, 09:00 PM	#43
Giant Lemon Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: out in the slipstream Posts: 3,265 Local Time: 03:16 AM	Wow, I'm surprised the story was reported in countries other than the US- it must give everyone a real nice view of the US! Anyway, it's a shame that some cops abuse their authority like this. And we only ever hear about the brutality that was caught on tape- just think of how many instances go unreported because there's no real evidence. Like Wanderer said, I really don't know why anyone would want to be a cop in an area like that. They're brave for taking on those jobs- maybe they hope to make a difference, but it seems like it's only getting worse.

07-12-2002, 12:53 AM	#46
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:16 PM	UPDATE ON CNN. The cops Attorney said- His client -the cop, after grappling w the young feller and being assaulted TWICE and receiving injuries on his neck and face,(blood on cop's face) the suspect still refused to co-operate w/the police. When they brought him to the trunk of the squad car he PURPOSELY buckled his legs and REFUSED to STAND UP STRIAGHT. His inaction and REFUSAL to obey a lawful request forced the policeman to be firmer and they had to lift him and pushed him hard onto the trunk. Sometimes I see they things on NYPD..oh dear. While this was occuring the suspect PUNCHED THE POLICEMAN in the GROIN w/one of his hancuffed hands This is when the policeman that had the bad coffee slugged him. Never hit any fellow in the nuts esp when youre going to jail. Again ppl lets NOT rush to judgement... Thank You- DB9

07-12-2002, 04:42 AM	#47
Angela Harlem Jesus Online Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: a glass castle Posts: 30,163 Local Time: 02:16 PM	The use of force doesn't have to be violent Diamond. It is called restraint. So does anyone really know what happened yet?

07-12-2002, 10:22 AM	#49
adamswildhoney ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in NorCal Posts: 10,333 Local Time: 07:16 PM	I think it terrible how some cops treat people, but as long as people dont say anything about the way that were treated nothing is going to ever happen and even if they did nothing would happen because people wouldnt believe the person any ways.

07-12-2002, 11:24 AM	#52
DrTeeth Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Q continuum Posts: 4,770 Local Time: 04:16 AM	Is there any evidence that the boy grabbed the guys testicles?

07-13-2002, 04:03 AM	#54
Angela Harlem Jesus Online Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: a glass castle Posts: 30,163 Local Time: 02:16 PM	Ah....yes......Ok. Diamond, i have indeed read this entire thread. All I have read though are 2 sides to the story. Conflicting supporting articles for whoever it is in favour of. Doesn't equal the truth. And please, please dont tell me a kick/hit/pinch/punch in the Jatz Crackers justifies a violent reaction. Bloody hell you guys are big skirts, you'd fair dinkum swear to God you lot (the male species) are the only ones to have such a highly sensitive area. From all the reports that have been presented, I'd say the kid was wrong with a few things and so was the cop. Re: Cop, it comes back to restraint.

07-13-2002, 11:42 AM	#55
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:16 PM	But he hit em in the CRACKERS DB9

07-13-2002, 12:50 PM	#57
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 10:16 PM	From what I have seen of the video, the police officer used too much force. Also, I believe they only pulled up the warrants on the photographer to get back at him for happening to film it. I am curious as to why the police departments wanted the original videotape IMMEDIATELY after the incident occurred? Did they want to erase it? That is a bit suspicious to me. That being said, let me warn ALL of you if you ever meet me in person: DO NOT EVER TOUCH ME IN THAT BIOLOGICAL AREA. It ALWAYS incites a violent, reflexive reaction from me and you are likely to get kicked, punched, etc., I don't care if you are Bono, the Pope, or Barney the Dinosaur - I will automatically do something to hurt you. I am not a cop so you cannot use any of those "LAW" charges against me. It is stupid (and cheap) for a suspect to attack that area and not expect SOME retribution. ~U2Alabama