CA Supreme Court-Doctors Cannot Invoke Religious Beliefs To Deny Treatment

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

i think the ones that don't want to make the exception,

are at least more consistent

and less overly anti-women-having-sex.

I did not realise you guys were living in some backward country where the government outlawed contraceptives.

For some reason, I laboured under the delusion that you guys were inhabitants of a jurisdiction in which contraceptives are more or less freely available.

[anitram]

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I don't think that you got her point - you seem to assume she's saying something she's not. Probably because you're not familiar with SD.

In SD, the pro-life groups and state senate pushed a complete abortion ban a couple of years ago. Then when wishful thinking turned into a reality, the citizens of the state had a huge and rather public case of buyer's remorse.

[martha]

Originally Posted by financeguy

Interesting. Are you the same Martha, not days ago, that was complaining about citizens of other states trying to affect legislation in California?

Dude, you need to get a grip on your dislike for me. It's affecting your posting again.

Where the hell did you come up with that conclusion? I was stating a fact as an example. Sheesh.

[martha]

Originally Posted by financeguy

I did not realise you guys were living in some backward country where the government outlawed contraceptives.

It's been tried here, and some states allow doctors to withhold prescriptions and access. Go reread some of the articles posted in this thread.

And then have some fun researching the Bush administration's restrictions on how US government agencies can handle contraception information in developing nations.

Your high horse is a little too high lately. You make assumptions and then have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

[martha]

Originally Posted by anitram

^

I don't think that you got her point - you seem to assume she's saying something she's not. Probably because you're not familiar with SD.

No, it's because he does that with me constantly.

[yolland]

I see this thread got rather ugly while I was away...

I don't see any good reason for this to be turned into an abortion thread (unless MrsS wants that, it's her thread); the procedure in question (AI) is routinely enough performed for infertile heterosexual couples, so the issue is whether it can be refused to lesbians on grounds of a doctor's moral objections to lesbian parenting. Obviously abortion isn't analogous to that; people who want abortion banned aren't looking to ban it only for women from certain social groups, while considering it A-OK for others.

martha and financeguy, I suggest you guys set each other to ignore; you don't seem to be able to interact for long without both of you losing your tempers and getting really nasty, and I think I've reached the end of any "reasoning" with either of you I can do about it.

Originally Posted by Harry Vest

I was tempted to tell "Martha" to simply F#*K OFF but thought that would be rude...so...

As BVS already pointed out, this is no different from "simply" saying it, which is obviously not OK. When you think a rude post directed at you needs to be addressed, but can't manage a response that isn't rude yourself, then I suggest you report the post instead.

[Burger]

Originally Posted by yolland

I see this thread got rather ugly while I was away...

I don't see any good reason for this to be turned into an abortion thread (unless MrsS wants that, it's her thread); the procedure in question (AI) is routinely enough performed for infertile heterosexual couples, so the issue is whether it can be refused to lesbians on grounds of a doctor's moral objections to lesbian parenting. Obviously abortion isn't analogous to that; people who want abortion banned aren't looking to ban it only for women from certain social groups, while considering it A-OK for others.

Absolutely. Abortion has nothing to do with it....