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Old 08-20-2008, 08:06 PM   #61
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What is your problem? And what the hell does this even mean?
I was tempted to tell "Martha" to simply F#*K OFF but thought that would be rude...so...
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I was tempted to tell "Martha" to simply F#*K OFF but thought that would be rude...so...
Well it was rude.

And this DOES have to do with politics...
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Harry, you're totally out of line.

First of all, martha isn't some loony PUMA - how did you conclude this at all?

Second, even if she were, you need to reconsider your tone.
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Can't we all just get along?

I mean, seriously - the initial comments directed at Harry were inflamatory as well......

Funny, I mean dragging the conspiracy thing into it cracked me up, but, it was not necessary.

But hey, come armed with a BB gun and get nuked....ouch
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Geez. I thought you bitter assertive Hillary supporters wouldn't resurface on a thread that has nothing at all to do with politics. You never cease to amaze...or disgust me.
You might want to actually think about what you're going to post before you actually post it. You're assuming an awful lot that isn't there, and are coming across as an... well, in a less than positive light, let's put it that way.
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What the hell is a PUMA?

I know what a cougar is...but a puma?
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It's the self-proclaimed "party unity my ass" crowd.
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You might want to actually think about what you're going to post before you actually post it. You're assuming an awful lot that isn't there, and are coming across as an... well, in a less than positive light, let's put it that way.

Sometimes it is tough to not shoot ones mouth off without the brain being loaded.......

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It's the self-proclaimed "party unity my ass" crowd.
Something about party and ass....makes me tingle.
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Well it was rude.

And this DOES have to do with politics...
O.K. I'll give you that yes, it does involve politics. But Martha's digs at "Conspiracy Theorist" and especially the "assertive women" comment obviously refer to my Hillary bashing of a few weeks/months ago. Why even bring that up? And in such a snooty way. My whole point in this discussion was that, if a doctor didn't want to perform an abortion (which is LEGAL) would they be forced to under this law. Instead of even coming close to answering my question (is it because I started with "Bullshit" - seems to be the only way to get some dialoge around here sometimes) Martha digs into the the fact that she thinks I can't stand "assertive women". Well Martha, I'm glad you know me better than I know myself. The only "assertive women" I don't like are the ones that assume things about me without having met me. I've been friends with "assertive women" all my life - ones that would probably scare the shit out of some here on FYM. In fact, they scared the shit out of me when I first met them. It was only through real dialoge that we became friends. Having said that, I still cannot stand certain types of aggresive people, male and female. Nuff said.
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The only ... I don't like are the ones that assume things about me without having met me.
Helloooooo pot, this is kettle.
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My whole point in this discussion was that, if a doctor didn't want to perform an abortion (which is LEGAL) would they be forced to under this law.
I agree those things shouldn't have been brought in...

But to answer your question. NO. Not even close.
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I agree those things shouldn't have been brought in...

But to answer your question. NO. Not even close.
O.K. THANKS!!!
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Geez. I thought you bitter assertive Hillary supporters wouldn't resurface on a thread that has nothing at all to do with politics. You never cease to amaze...or disgust me.

Can you quote anything I've ever posted that directly indicates I'm a Hillary supporter?

(Hint: Only one post ever. I dare you to find it.)

And yeah, my answer was shitty and smart-ass. I was tired and a little sick of your shrill bullshit.
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Can you quote anything I've ever posted that directly indicates I'm a Hillary supporter?

(Hint: Only one post ever. I dare you to find it.)

And yeah, my answer was shitty and smart-ass. I was tired and a little sick of your shrill bullshit.
"Shrill Bullshit"

Are you sure now?
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This ruling is bullshit. Plain and simple. There are enough doctors out there (especially in the United States!!!) that if a few don't want to do a procedure the patient can always find a doctor who will do it. If the facist section of the leftwing had it's way this law would apply to abortion as well. Granted, I still think the doctors in this case are boobs, but what about a law like this pertaining to abortion. The government cannot force a doctor to perform an abortion if he/she does not believe in it...can they????

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Are you sure now?

Yeah. Pretty much.
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This ruling is bullshit. Plain and simple. There are enough doctors out there (especially in the United States!!!) that if a few don't want to do a procedure the patient can always find a doctor who will do it. If the facist section of the leftwing had it's way this law would apply to abortion as well. Granted, I still think the doctors in this case are boobs, but what about a law like this pertaining to abortion. The government cannot force a doctor to perform an abortion if he/she does not believe in it...can they????
Um...Harry, you are jumping to conclusions this ruling does not make. The woman in this case is asking the doctors to do the procedures they already do. They refused because they don't want to do those procedures on people like her. The law in California, as it stands now, does not permit businesses (which that clinic is) to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. No one is telling these doctors they have to perform procedures they are opposed to; however, according to the law, if they offer the service they cannot deny service to someone strictly because of that person's sexual orientation.

Your scenario has someone asking doctors to do a procedure they don't do at all. That is not the same. It would only be the same if the doctors in your scenario did perform abortions, but refused to perform them on lesbians.
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