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Old 11-24-2002, 03:41 PM   #21
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I'm relieved someone else has heard of this. I felt worried after I posted, because I don't know much about it. What if it was a waste of time, or a front or something? But they quoted Susan Sarandon...so shouldn't I trust everything i read?

They "sell" these presents like knitting baskets, (sheep and llamas) and dairy farms (cows, water buffalos, goats) and honey bees and stuff. They provide training programs so people know how to care for the animals they receive. the only disappointing thing i read was that your donations just get sent to a general fund. I always feel better when my donations actually do what i want them to do. Earmarking, you know?
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Old 11-25-2002, 09:43 PM   #22
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Some of us try our best to remember the original purpose of Christmas.

The birth of Christ.

And the beginning of college bowl week.

I know Bama will agree with me on both counts.
Yes.

But my faux college bowl season begins and ends this Saturday night in Hawaii, since we are on probation.

And I will probably go to Best Buy Friday morning if they have a real good deal on a scanner.

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Old 11-29-2002, 01:53 PM   #23
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I'm about to run out of toilet paper

Mabey I can have Steal Something Day and take some from a public loo

If anyone is going shopping today, don't foget your full body armour, it can be a battle out there today just to walk down the street.

I like to pretend I'm British because they have words like "loo"
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OK, I totally agree that Christmas has become too commercial, is not about Christ anymore, etc. etc.

I went shopping today. I bought stuff for me today. And I don't feel guilty. Say what you want about greed and materialism at Christmas. Right now, this country is trying to pull itself out of a recession and one way to do this is to increase spending. More spending leads to more people who have to fill the demand, more people who have to sell the product. It creates jobs and gives stores the ability to earn money. There are stores that work in a deficit all year and then end up making a profit for the year strictly on their Christmas sales. Again, profit gives you the power to hire more people which creates more jobs, more money into the economy and therefore more money to spend.

You can't spend time with your family if you're spending your time worrying about bills or can't afford a plane ticket to go home.
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I'm about to run out of toilet paper
I was wondering what you would do in this situation.
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I went into McDonalds and stole a role of theirs.
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Old 11-30-2002, 05:47 AM   #27
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Did you buy a Big Mac first?
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Old 11-30-2002, 03:39 PM   #28
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no, the were too busy to notice ppl going into the bathroom without being a customer

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Stealing is never right.
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Old 11-30-2002, 06:19 PM   #30
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I went into McDonalds and stole a role of theirs.
At the very least replace it when you get a chance.
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Old 11-30-2002, 07:07 PM   #31
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stealing is right when you don't have any money and you'd like to wipe your ass
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Old 11-30-2002, 09:05 PM   #32
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stealing is right when you don't have any money and you'd like to wipe your ass
Uh, is your whole story about stealing a roll of TP from McDonald's a joke or serious?

If it's serious, then congratulations. One way or another, you've completely negated the moral worth of your personal "buy nothing day" crusade.

If you really are a penniless pauper living on the streets, participating in "buy nothing day" is a rather vacuous ritual for you.

And if you're not, then stealing a roll of TP from McDonald's is morally incorrect. (Had you considered asking the McDonald's manager? Or taking some McDonald's napkins, which they're happy to give away for free? Or borrowing a roll from a neighbor or friend? Or using paper towels, paper, leaves, or a garden hose?)
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Old 11-30-2002, 09:27 PM   #33
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My personal "Buy Nothing Day" crusade...it's actuall not my personal crusade, it's a day started by AdBusters that I thought ppl might like to know about.
And I already stated at the begining of the post, that it really means nothing to me because I hardly ever buy anything.
McDonald's does not give away their napkins freely, the neigbors were all gone for the day, the napkins and paper towels we were using for TP was all gone and I hardly think my bothering a manager on one of their busiest days to explain that I'm short on cash, would she find it in the bottom of her heart to lend me a roll of TP would have resulted in anything other than being a great nuicense in the day.

I had to take a piss.
McDonalds was close by.
I kept a roll for late while I was in there.
I hardly thing this is immoral, on the grand scheme of things, I'm not going to lose any sleep over questioning my ethics by doing this and I certainly hope nobody else would.
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Old 11-30-2002, 11:44 PM   #34
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looks like they bought a whole of nothing at walmart!

Wal-Mart Reports $1.43 Billion Sales Fri.
Sat Nov 30, 5:53 PM ET Add Business - Reuters to My Yahoo!



BENTONVILLE, Ark. (Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (NYSE:WMT - news), the world's biggest retailer, on Saturday reported record one-day sales on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving that retailers hope will jump-start sluggish sales.


Wal-Mart said its U.S. stores racked up $1.43 billion in sales on Friday at its thousands of U.S. stores, which includes Sam's Clubs. That compares to day-after Thanksgiving day sales of $1.25 billion last year.


That represents the biggest single-day sales figure for the retailer.


Retailers have been forced to trim expenses all year to make up for slack sales and analysts are expecting a mediocre holiday season, as consumers fret over layoffs and a likely war with Iraq.
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Old 12-01-2002, 06:09 AM   #35
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looks like they bought a whole of nothing at walmart!
Wal-Mart Reports $1.43 Billion Sales Fri.
I was just gonna say that this (ironically) unadvertised campaign that very little people even knew about, had little impact. My store alone did a 143% increase from last year. And this is combined with the fact that a storm was blowing through around our outdoor mall!

My advise, which I rarely offer, is that if you really want to make a change in the world get off your butt and actually do something. Join that organization that Elizabeth mentioned. But to simply refuse to buy anything won't even make a CFO bat his eyelids. I'm sorry if this came across as preachy. The campaign does have good intentions, I just think they go about it the wrong way. *shoulder shrug* Here are some other organizations that I personally am a member of and recommend.

Environmental Groups:
Clearwater Project
Environmental Defense
National Arbor Day Foundation
The Nature Conservancy

Social/Political:
The Leonard Peltier Defense Committee
United Students Against Sweatshops

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Old 12-01-2002, 02:14 PM   #36
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Well this is getting scary Cleasai, if you are involved with USAS arond here I may know you

If anyone bothered to check the link, they would see exactly what the purpose of the day was and what happens on the day. There are actions and rallys held, things are done to inform ppl, not to attack ppl and say "don't buy anything you evil human!!"
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Old 12-01-2002, 05:48 PM   #37
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My apologies, Sparkysgrrrl. Based on the subject matter of this thread, it was my impression that you stole TP from McDonald's in an attempt to make some political or economic protest statement.

I agree with speedraver; the least you could do is return a new, unused roll of TP to the McDonald's location at your next convenience.

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Old 12-01-2002, 06:40 PM   #38
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No problem U2Bama...
I certainly wouldn't want to confuse ppl into thinking "Anarchy! Steal some TP from evil Ronald McD!! Woo-hoo!"
haha

I'll make sure it's an unused roll that I put back (that cracked me up...a used roll of toilet paper I'm not that radical)
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:41 AM   #39
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sparkysgrrrl this is probably none of my business, but have you considered applying for some kind of government assistance? I mean if it's so bad that you have to steal Toliet paper, I'm sure that you could get on some kind of aide program.
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I am in the process of getting disablilty but it will take another 6-8 months of bullshit before I could get money.
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