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Old 07-10-2007, 02:05 PM   #481
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if you want to falsely accuse them, be my guest. i won't be apart of it.
How is it a false accusation?
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How is it a false accusation?
show me where the bush administration has been found guilty of conspiracy?
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show me where the bush administration has been found guilty of conspiracy?
ask libby. he knows
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ask libby.
so they aren't guilty, are they.
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show me where the bush administration has been found guilty of conspiracy?
Do you even understand the case?

Libby was commuted BY BUSH. Because he was COMMUTED, not pardoned, he DOES NOT HAVE TO SPEAK. If he did, he would have to testify that Cheney ordered the leak. But because he doesn't, Cheney gets off free.

The commutation is a cover-up of the crime, and they can't be found guilty because of the cover-up.
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so they aren't guilty, are they.
of course they are. they know what they did. we know what they did. they have now, and always have considered themselves above the law. they are playing games to avoid being held accountable.
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of course they are. they know what they did. we know what they did. they have now, and always have considered themselves above the law. they are playing games to avoid being held accountable.
how do we know what they did?? are you 100% sure? its Washington. do you honestly believe everything you read or watch or hear? until something is done in court, they are innocent according to our constitution. libby is guilty.
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how do we know what they did?? are you 100% sure? its Washington. do you honestly believe everything you read or watch or hear? until something is done in court, they are innocent according to our constitution. libby is guilty.
what is libby guilty of?
why did he do it?
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how do we know what they did?? are you 100% sure? its Washington. do you honestly believe everything you read or watch or hear? until something is done in court, they are innocent according to our constitution. libby is guilty.
That is absolute bullshit. Give me a break.

To say the court is always correct is bullshit. To say that the court is the only way to judge someone is bullshit.

What do you think cover-up means?
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That is absolute bullshit. Give me a break.

To say the court is always correct is bullshit. To say that the court is the only way to judge someone is bullshit.

What do you think cover-up means?
So, to say that you are always correct is 100% right?
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But, I've heard the arguments in defense of the administration, all of them, in this thread. They're pathetic.
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"When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong." -- Richard Dawkins
This quote does not apply here sadly.

You cannot jump to conclusions on evidence, most of which has been leaked by the opposing party's sources. If you guys want to start accusing people, fine. Pretty low class if you ask me. That is what elementary kids do. "Teacher, he took my pen." That is what you guys are doing.

I am waiting until some hard evidence comes out. Enough of the hear say.
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This quote does not apply here sadly.

You cannot jump to conclusions on evidence, most of which has been leaked by the opposing party's sources. If you guys want to start accusing people, fine. Pretty low class if you ask me. That is what elementary kids do. "Teacher, he took my pen." That is what you guys are doing.

I am waiting until some hard evidence comes out. Enough of the hear say.
What exactly are you talking about here? You're not implying you think Libby is innocent now, are you?
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You're pretty funny, struck. Basically as soon as you get caught with no evidence to back up your stance, you turn on those who catch you on it, rather than go about finding the evidence to back it up. Doing the latter would work wonders on your debate skills.

Oh and just because the evidence doesn't come from your party doesn't mean it automatically comes from the opposing party. This evidence comes from various, both within the Democratic party and independent of it.
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You cannot jump to conclusions on evidence
Think very carefully about this statement.
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You're pretty funny, struck. Basically as soon as you get caught with no evidence to back up your stance, you turn on those who catch you on it, rather than go about finding the evidence to back it up. Doing the latter would work wonders on your debate skills.

Oh and just because the evidence doesn't come from your party doesn't mean it automatically comes from the opposing party. This evidence comes from various, both within the Democratic party and independent of it.
Yes, exactly. You are accusing people of false accusations. Where I come from you don't accuse people.
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You cannot jump to conclusions on evidence,
What else are you supposed to jump to conclusions on?

This IS hard evidence. It's not rumors leaked by the party. It's literally the statements of those legally inolved in the case.
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So, to say that you are always correct is 100% right?
Does that have anything at all to do with my statement? I mean ANYTHING.
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