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Old 12-13-2007, 12:26 PM   #41
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One thing I've noticed when watching television is, on US shows, females who are supposed to portray ordinary, typical people are generally gorgeous and flawless, with a few exceptions, of course. On BBC shows, many female characters are shown as being more real - not overly done-up, not glamourized, they're flawed, just as most of us are. I really appreciate seeing that, and I think it lends to a much greater degree of realism. I can't help but wonder if that reflects the values of each respective society.

Definitely. In soaps there like Corrie, Eastenders etc. the women look like everyday people I know, not so much the US soaps.
Apart from the jackass who wrote the article, most guys over there have more realistc expectations of women* also. I'm not painting everyone with the same brush or making generalizations, I just have personally found I'm a lot more comfortable in my own skin when I'm over there than when I am here.



*Maybe this is because the women there don't tend to spend fortunes on treatments as much as they do here (some do of course, but I find it is much more pervasive among even my friends here than my friends over there) and this helps keep guys expectations in check. maybe.
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Old 12-13-2007, 12:34 PM   #42
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JK Rowling is an incredibly successful woman. That's what some men do when they're threatened by a woman like her, they attack her appearance.
That's pretty pathetic, to be threatened because of a woman's success. If Rowling had been a man, would they have been acting that way? Doubt it. And I agree, women can be just as bad if not worse.
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One thing I've noticed when watching television is, on US shows, females who are supposed to portray ordinary, typical people are generally gorgeous and flawless, with a few exceptions, of course. On BBC shows, many female characters are shown as being more real - not overly done-up, not glamourized, they're flawed, just as most of us are. I really appreciate seeing that, and I think it lends to a much greater degree of realism.
I've noticed that the Americans tend to cast by looks, whereas the British cast by who fits the role, talent-wise. One reason I prefer British shows to American ones.
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Indeed. I need to see more British television. And personally, based on the British women I have seen, I dunno, I'd say they're just as pretty as any other female.

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The strange thing is most of the time he's a nice, friendly, intelligent guy. Sure, he's prone to smart-ass comments, but most of them are amusing. It wouldn't have bugged me so much if he really were an idiot.
Weird. Maybe that was meant to be a joke, too, but it just came out wrong?

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We're NOT entitled to that? Dammit.

Is it just me, or do "ugly", "intelligent", and "slob" not fit together properly? I can't even picture that in my mind...maybe Amy Winehouse with a higher IQ?

I've always thought the stereotype for the ugly British woman was something more akin to a crackwhore, while the ugly American woman stereotype was an obese shrew with a bad attitude. The gold-digger thing never crossed my mind. I wish there were beautiful women around here at all, gold-digger or otherwise.
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:23 AM   #47
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It sounds like the American man that lives in England hangs out with a lot of American airhead fluffs. he sounds like a fluff too.
I'm an American woman. I take care of my looks but I would never spend $700 dollars a month on facials, hair cuts, or pay for bigger boobs. I'm more interested in intellectual things, so my conversations right now are on a possible global economic depression, Iraq war, and how the world is going to hell.
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Looks like someone can't get laid in England. Poor guy.


Most people i know make a month in wages what this guys thinks should be spent on beauty/fitness.

No wonder hes single.

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One thing I've noticed when watching television is, on US shows, females who are supposed to portray ordinary, typical people are generally gorgeous and flawless, with a few exceptions, of course. On BBC shows, many female characters are shown as being more real - not overly done-up, not glamourized, they're flawed, just as most of us are. I really appreciate seeing that, and I think it lends to a much greater degree of realism. I can't help but wonder if that reflects the values of each respective society.
Yeah Eastenders ( ) and Corrie have typical characters more like how normal everyday people are. Hollyoaks ( doubt you get that in north america/canada ) is a british soap with a high proportion of young, beautiful people.

Who the hell has that much money to spend on beauty treatments. Rents more of a priority for me personally.
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If you follow the link and read the whole article (or rather, don't read the whole article because it will probably make you want to vomit - just skip to the bottom) it says this guy is a screenwriter who splits his time between LA and London. Maybe that's why all the women he knows spend so much money on their appearance. He probably hangs out mostly with actresses or aspiring actresses. It explains a lot. He's still a jerk, though.
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