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Acrobat
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Bono's silence is strange and disappointing
Yes it is.He's been showing his social&political consciousness all
__________________the time,he made himself almost a new Lennon.His concern about Africa,Burma etc is something to be highly appreciated,as well as being the only European to take part in the video dedicated to September,11 tragic events. But surely the current situation with Iraq is no less important?!? Surely it would be interesting to hear what Bono thinks about President Bush's policy?people in Britain,Germany,Australia, Thailand,New Zealand protesting against the war?big event,eh? Oh he can only criticise those guys in Burma? ![]() Sorry,but I needed to vent.Don't flame me,I'm not trying to say "Bono should show his anti-war views because he once wrote Bullet the Blue Sky" or something like that.I'm just amazed at his not saying ANYTHING at all.How come he's suddenly become so politically indifferent?? |
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ONE
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15 Billion Dollars.
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I believe everybody has a right to form their own opinions, and it just very well might be that I disagree with Bono's at the moment. That's fine, it's the way of the world, although I am disappointed.
We all have to rebel against our own indifference somehow. Keep on marching for peace, keep rebelling. That is your part, regardless of what Bono does. |
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Does he really owe us his opinion?
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I was skeptical this aid would be delivered because of the social engineering that is usually attached.
I am happy to see W moving away from Regan's policies and towards Clintons. Quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by anitram
We all have to rebel against our own indifference somehow. Keep on marching for peace, keep rebelling. That is your part, regardless of what Bono does.[QUOTE] That's true.I totally agree that everyone's responsible for their own part regardless of what Bono or anyone else says or does,but my point is that I've been the band's fan for a long time and I think it's pretty natural for a fan to be concerned about what they think and what their views are,especially as Bono's always in the public eye with all those big words,and that's what he IS responsible for.And while Bono doesn't owe anything to anyone when it comes to his private life and likes,there's still this link between him and his fans when it comes to big issues like war which are no longer private for a public person like Bono.When he askes to give money for Africa doesn't he appeal to his fans in the first place? Don't at least some of them pay attention and try to understand what he's talking about? Joining that video he showed he didn't approve of the September,11 terract,which is quite natural but which IS also a statement.Does he approve of 2000 people being killed during Yugoslavia bombing? Does he approve of the inevitable future Iraqi civil victims if the war starts? Why does he make statement about the former and doesn't utter a single word about the latter? Don't get me wrong,I'm not saying he MUST.I'm just an ordinary fan of his,nothing more,nothing less.But I feel uncomfortable and confused about certain things Bono-related and I wanted to express that.Isn't that what a U2 forum was ment for? |
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Too bad even Bono has a price
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$15 billion to fight 'weapons of mass destruction' in Africa (ie, HIV) is far more important than Bono giving his irrelevant opinion on Iraq and angering an administration that has already shown a tendancy to be vindictive
and I know it's inconceivable to many of you, but maybe Bono just doesn't agree with you... ? ok, not the most plausible scenario, but wasn't Bono once in favor of airstrikes in the former Yugoslavia, which btw, killed thousands of civillians? whatever the case, stop whining and be proud of the man for what he is doing.
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You know what is strange and disapointing, the fact that anyone has the right to be slightly pissed off by the fact a great person doesnt want to give his opinion on everything in the world.
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Aine, we have been discussing this subject at local mailing lists, and lots of fans here feel the same. A couple of weeks ago, when that Bono´s letter to Mr. Bush, asking for help to fight AIDS in Africa was published in the Washington Post I said the same in another forum, and I got flamed. I said that, although his letter was well writen and meaningful and his cause really noble, I couldn´t help feeling disappointed with Bono lately. Not a single word against the war on Iraq, that has been planned by US government and alies. At least Edge said something against it, I think it was in his last interview to Hot Press. Call me naive if you want it, but I think he should try, at least, say something, maybe a word against the war. He would be coherent with his history and background, coming from a country divided by war for so long. He has a way with words and it seems that he has the simpathy of the allmighty Mr.Bush. This is not a minor crisis, this is big, and it will affect the whole world, Africa included. Nobody can pretend that the problem doesn´t exist. War is not the answer, never was, never will be. Bono says in his letter "President Bush is in the business of making history". The thing is, in my viewpoint, what kind of history he will be remembered for.
By the way, those 15 billions might get down the drain with the upcoming war. That´s what Anthony DeCurtis said in his Rolling Stone article below: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new....asp?nid=17473 |
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I think I should inform everyone here that Bono is NOT a Pacifist. Bono supported US airstrikes to stop the fighing in Bosnia as clearly noted in the book "Until The End Of The World". In a HOT PRESS article last year, Bono supported Bush's war on terrorism 100%. Bono may be for or against a war in Iraq. But it would be naive to assume what his position is until or if he speaks about it. I'm sure everyone would love to draft BONO to their cause or point of view, but Bono is an individual and free thinking person, and many here would probably be disappointed if they new his views on multiple political issues he has never spoken on ever.
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himself,with the right to say what I feel,EVEN if Bono is concerned. Second,I'm his fan and as I said it's perfectly natural for me to care about his public statements though they might not be crucial for my own view in the end.Third,I sincirely hope that by saying he's great you don't mean he's a kind of idol whose words and deeds can't be discussed. Wanderer,if I could be just "proud with what he's doing" I wouldn't start this thread.The fact is,I've got my doubts.I love Bono and WANT to be "proud" of him as I used to but hey,when someone asksyou,"It's all nice for a rich guy who has everything to preach about safe sex to those wretched people in Africa,how about doing a more risky thing and oppose the killing?"you can't but realize you've been asking yourself practically the same for some time already. No way I think what he does for Africa is easy or "nice",as well as writing songs is never easy.But then again:he feels for Sept,11 victims which is obvious, but with Yugoslavia and Iraq it's as if they've never existed.Sorry,but that's a bit of a double standard.I'd love to prove myself wrong and I don't want to lose the respect I've always had for Bono but I haven't found a solution to my doubts yet.I'd love to understand this man and why he does what he does - I hope there's nothing wrong with that. Follower,thanks for your response ![]() Btw,it's even nothing wrong with Bono saying he's pro-war - well, it is for people like me who are strongly anti-war,but it would be his honest opinion anyway. |
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Sting,I wouldn't want to draft Bono to my point of view,honestly.
I just want to understand who Bono is,want to know if I got him right or wrong.I thought you can't save people in Africa and bomb people in Iraq at the same time.I wanted to know if Bono thought the same.It's just my own U2 crisis,really.Has nothing to do with Bono's freedom of thinking. |
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Aine,
Bono spoke out extensively on the former Yugoslavia and supported US military intervention to stop the fighting. |
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There are probably very few complete pacifists in the world, and many more who aspire or long to be. Bono has made it clear that he longs to be in the club, but that his imperfect human nature sometimes gets the better of him. No spin, just exactly what the man said. |
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The Flower
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No matter how much we love and respect Bono, he owes us nothing but great music. He is first and foremost a musician who just happens to be a great humanitarian. He's not a politician. He doesn't owe us an opinion on Iraq or anything else going on in the world. If he chooses to give these opinons, great. If not, that's his choice.
He gives so much to the world...why can't we let him keep something to himself. I can't imagine what it must be like to have this kind of pressure, to be held to such impossibly high standards. |
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Why do we care what Bono thinks? Does he need to tell us everything?
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