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Old 12-06-2003, 11:35 AM   #41
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Indeed it up to the people and what they hold in their hearts. Unfortunately sometimes fear stops us from doing what is right. I've known people involved involved in civil disagreement who just have thes heavy hearts filled with anger .. but they don't know why. From my own example still have family and friends who still today have the protesant catholic divide that dates back to their ancestors. When I ask them why they still continue this fight .. I get a lesson on history and I see how it is just carrying on legacy that is going no where. It can be hard when you have a family and a history that has held these issues for so long.. eventually someone has to say enough is enough I refuse to be consumed by the past this is just stupid.

I respect my ancestors but I also realize that they made some really bad choices
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Agreed. It's been proven that holding these grudges hasn't solved squat. Time to learn from the past and move on.
Absolutely.

But the fact remains, this will not change overnight and it is naive of us to assume that it will.
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:06 PM   #43
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I find it interesting that France, Germany, and Russia won't give more money to fight AIDS in Africa. It seems like whatever the US is for, they must be against, even when it means making the world a better, safer place.
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Absolutely.

But the fact remains, this will not change overnight and it is naive of us to assume that it will.
Very true. It takes a long time to get rid of anger and pain that have been dwelling in people since practically the beginning of time.

Case in point, look how long it took for racism to dwindle in its intensity in this country (and even so, there's still a few areas where it occurs to this day).

But I still have hope that things will be better someday.

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Oh, I agree. That's what makes this stuff so damn frustrating. Lingering ethnic hatreds. Unfortunately government reforms and such can only do so much, and then the rest has to be in the people's hearts.
Yep, and I honestly think that most people in this world would love to do something to change this stuff, because most people in this world are good people...but it's like Katey said, fear and not knowing why they're fighting definitely plays a big part-that's absolutely right. Today's generations have heard so many different reasons as to why they're fighting the other side, and the problems have gotten so complex. And they're scared to make changes, because they'd be some very big ones that everyone would have to adjust to, and a lot of people have difficulties adjusting to big changes (look at how Europe reacted after the fall of the Wall, for example).

So, like you said, verte, it's in the people's hearts, but how can we motivate people to overcome that fear and lack of understanding?

I've had discussions with my dad about this stuff so many times, and my god, some of the things people have killed each other over......such petty, trivial things. How did our world get to the point where it was considered wrong to practice a different religion or be a different skin color or have a different sexual preference or what have you? Where did we go wrong?

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I find it interesting that France, Germany, and Russia won't give more money to fight AIDS in Africa. It seems like whatever the US is for, they must be against, even when it means making the world a better, safer place.

Good point and very revealing.
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