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Old 11-01-2001, 11:33 AM   #61
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Originally posted by Marko:
Melon: As I said, I don't understand THOSE homosexuals that act in that way, and I think that THEY ARE twisted. But I appritiate all other "normal" gay people that difer from me or you only by their attraction to same sex. I didn't say that I think all gays are twisted - i used the word THOSE more times, so I think it came to missunderstanding.
Well, okay. I'm glad that misunderstanding is taken care of.

However, I still don't think that the "effeminate" gays or the "butch" lesbians are "twisted" either. Who defines what is "masculine" or "feminine"? 250 years ago, men tied to the monarchy walked around in makeup, wigs, tights, etc. in imperial France. Even our founding fathers walked around in very girly looking wigs, but both the American Revolution and the French Revolution did a good job of destroying these cultural aspects of "masculinity," which, rather than being defined by monarchies, it was then defined by the working classes, which simply couldn't afford to live so lavishly.

So, simply, I think they should be accepted as-is. I don't quite understand why some people are the way they are, but they are perfectly capable of functioning in society and are happy. What else can one ask for?


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Old 11-01-2001, 01:26 PM   #62
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