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A_Wanderer said:Minority Islamists, Minority Progressives, Majority of Apathy.
sadly, I guess you're right
A_Wanderer said:Minority Islamists, Minority Progressives, Majority of Apathy.
A_Wanderer said:Minority Islamists, Minority Progressives, Majority of Apathy.
dazzlingamy said:I just think its funny that we have hundreds of thousands of 'white christian' or 'white jewish' or 'white anything' serial killers, bombers (like oklahoma etc), rapists, terorists, pshcyo army people who have killed a ZILLON times more people then any muslim yet they are now feared more then any one else.
its sad, disgusting and basically pathetic. Being muslim or looking middle eastern would be hell right now, and i feel for them, especially as like 99.9999 percent of them have nothing to do with these militia groups (such as we dont have anything to do with white supremist groups) yet seem to be all clumped in together.
They are a political movement which manipulate religion to their ends, this movement ~ from Muslim Brotherhood to Al Qaeda is labelled as Islamist. These movements which at their softest levels advocate theocracy and at the extreme level advocate violence as inherently wrong in that they do not allow for very much individual freedoms. Imposition of such governance on entire populations is the opposite of progressive movements ergo the dichotomy.islamist doesn't equal extremist! (the word islamist implies that there is something in our religion and those who are following it correctly are the ones who are pulling the terrorist attacks, which is bullshit!!!)
Irvine511 said:
well, they're collected from all over, but i did like them.
not to be too crass, but these people must really have a death wish if they're going to be picking fights with the Brits and the Yanks.
A_Wanderer said:Apathetic in terms of ideology, not sympathy. Any society has it's middle ground majority. Surely around the world the vast majority of people who are going about practicing their religion in a traditional manner and living their lives peacefully without ideological concerns one way or another count. 1.2 Billion people living their lives out, working for a living, worrying about survival and too often without massive ammounts of education. Regular people.
speedracer said:
Yes, people have committed murders in the name of religion in the recent past in places like Waco, Northern Ireland, etc. But over the last few years, al-Qaeda and other "Islamist" terrorist groups have pretty much declared war on the entire civilized world. That's why so much attention is being brought on these attacks.
dazzlingamy said:
i'm not arguing that point, i understand why so much attention and why every tv station is tuned into this, but my point is, we as in whte people don't get the treatment that MANY MANY muslims and middle eastern appearance people are recieving.
eg
1. On a flight last week two men and three were "randomly" chosen to be strip searched. They were all of middle eastern appearance and the women were dressed in headscarfs. No one else (including two men drunk off thier asses and leering at every woman in sight me including were let through no worries)
dazzlingamy said:
i'm not arguing that point, i understand why so much attention and why every tv station is tuned into this, but my point is, we as in whte people don't get the treatment that MANY MANY muslims and middle eastern appearance people are recieving.
eg
1. On a flight last week two men and three were "randomly" chosen to be strip searched. They were all of middle eastern appearance and the women were dressed in headscarfs. No one else (including two men drunk off thier asses and leering at every woman in sight me including were let through no worries)
2. I have a muslim friend who is stared at, belittled called a terorist and many other names when she is shopping in a local mall. She was even spat on by and older woman (though that incident did happen two years ago)
all im saying is, a few islamic extrmeists kill a few thousand people and suddenly we're killing middle eastern people left right and centre. thats all.
randhail said:
When was the last time we heard about a white person crashing a plane into a building? When was the last time a white person blew up a bus? or beheaded someone on tv?
If I get on a plane, I'm gonna be suspicious of people in full muslim garb. I can rationalize with myself all I want but I will still be suspicious. If something happened on the plane and the men did not get searched, their would be an outcry as to why something was not done.
It sucks that this is happening to innocent people but I'd rather be safe.
A_Wanderer said:General rule of thumb when trying to kill a lot of people is too blend in.
A_Wanderer said:But racial and religious profiling is wrong, just think about the internment camps for Americans of Japanese decent during the second world war.
financeguy said:Well, in terms of Northern Irish terrorists, it is interesting to me that Loyalist groups were rarely referred to as 'Christian Terrorists', even though many claimed to be Biblical Christians and there were even a number of preachers involved in the Loyalist terrorist movement.
speedracer said:
Yeah, it's rather unlikely that terrorists would dress in a manner that sets them apart. But still, it makes logistical sense to "randomly" search young-to-middle-aged Middle Eastern males at a higher rate than others. You can't search everybody.
bcrt2000 said:
you just contradicted yourself
A_Wanderer said:But racial and religious profiling is wrong, just think about the internment camps for Americans of Japanese decent during the second world war.
financeguy said:Well, in terms of Northern Irish terrorists, it is interesting to me that Loyalist groups were rarely referred to as 'Christian Terrorists', even though many claimed to be Biblical Christians and there were even a number of preachers involved in the Loyalist terrorist movement.
speedracer said:
Bzzzt. Try again.
One can change one's clothes, but it's really hard to change one's face.
bcrt2000 said:
Rwanda
bcrt2000 said:
the fact is that people are afraid of what they don't know. the media is western controlled, and they are all christians themselves, so they wouldn't brand it as christian terrorism because it would be degrading to themselves. but when it comes to a religion they don't know they will happily brand it as that.