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Old 09-15-2002, 07:31 PM   #41
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Bottom line....The UN passed the resolutions


saddam violated the UN resoutions....if you don't enforce them ..they mean nothing. And if they mean nothing in the future The US won't even bother with the courtesy of going through the UN. Europe has a horrible history of percieving global threats and in fact teh French are dealign arms to iraq right now (how stupid do you have to be?). I dont' necessarily support an invasion occupation and reconfiguration of iraq however some action must be taken.


otherwise..the UN really is the joke that some ppl think it is.
Arun.....I agree!!!! See I am teachable!!! HAHA!!!
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Anti-Americanism

FOR FUCKS SAKE!! It's not Anti-Americanism, it's Anti-American Foreign Policy. There is a big difference.
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Old 09-16-2002, 07:34 AM   #43
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FOR FUCKS SAKE!! It's not Anti-Americanism, it's Anti-American Foreign Policy. There is a big difference.
In the words of Ronald Reagan "There you go again."

Why do you make it personal?
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Surely Dreadsox, you agree there is a huge difference between Anti Americanism and Anti American foreign policy? How is that personal?
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why do I get the feelin Blair was forced to stand by Bush's side otherwise America would turn their backs on him....?

hmm...well I kinda read all this thread and dont understand one daaamn word of it! I aint got tha head for politics man..


HEY ANTHONY!!!!! DID YOU SEE THE DAVID DIMBLEBY QUESTION TIME LIVE FROM NEW YORK ON THURS 12th????

IF so, or if not, hear/didnt hear the comment by the American which was:

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'Is Britain really backing Bush or trying to look good globally?'


something like that!!!!! I cant quite remember!

mum says ' oh, he obviously doesnt like Britain'
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FOR FUCKS SAKE!! It's not Anti-Americanism, it's Anti-American Foreign Policy. There is a big difference.

Please mind your language.

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That's what they're supposed to be doing!

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HEY ANTHONY!!!!! DID YOU SEE THE DAVID DIMBLEBY QUESTION TIME LIVE FROM NEW YORK ON THURS 12th????
Yes, mad1, I did watch the Question Time from New York (I never miss it, anyway, one of my fave programmes) and I did hear that wonderful question (and I am not being sarcastic).

That gentleman knocked the nail right on the head, and my answer was the seemingly Anti-British answer that some people gave. I don't believe for one moment that there is a 'special relationship'between America and Britain, not for one microsecond, except perhaps Britain kisses more American arse than any other nation in the world. Britain has slowly yet surely been stripped of any diplomatic and international integrity, thanks to having its lips firmly placed on America's arse, and that is my honest opinion.

Special relationship? If there was a special relationship, there would be some sense of selflessness, some sense of 'sharing', the only thing that the countries share is Tony Blair. Bush's poodle, Bush's foreign secretary... whatever you want to call it. When it comes to Britain, its right there backing every move the Bush administration (as indeed, it was the same thing for Blair/Major and the Clinton administration, Thatcher and the Reagan administation) even hints at, however, when its Bush's turn to think of other international matters such as the Kyoto Protocol or how economically hostile increasing tarrifs in the foreign market would be for the rest of the world - he doesn't give a flaming toss. I don't blame him. WHY should he, he's the American President looking after the American people. My beef is with the whole deal that Britain is always there supporting everything, no matter how detrimental to its economy, society and industry. Britain is always there, shoulder to shoulder - as Blair puts it, but when it comes to Bush to deliver; we're just left there staring at one word ;'TOUGH'.

I'm truly sick of it. I am fed up of this constant brown-nosing, of having to conform with every policy delivered by Bush, or indeed by any other American President. People see 'special relationship between Britain and America', I see 'kiss ass, obey orders and f**k off'.

So no, there is no special relationship. Its partially to do with, as the gentleman put it, Tony Blair wanting to seem important, but its more to do with the fact that Bush has him firmly placed in his pocket.

Its sickening, absolutely sickening how that American gentleman was absolutely right.

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Surely Dreadsox, you agree there is a huge difference between Anti Americanism and Anti American foreign policy? How is that personal?
Nah, you misunderstood or I was not clear. The swearing ect.....and the abusive tone of the other persons post makes it personal. It has happened more than once.

Anti American foreign policy is not what I was referring to. Sorry.

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