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Old 07-07-2008, 03:24 PM   #21
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Well now I guess Senator Obama will have to account for the actions of every African American. He will have to answer for Eddie Murphy's next movie, I just hope it doesn't jeopardize his bid for the Presidency

I'm sure there are e-mails circulating regarding Sen Obama's secret plan to change our national anthem to Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing
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I think she was a bit devious, but we really could have a better national anthem.
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It was a stunt by a local singer looking for free publicity and figured controversy was the way to get it. While she got her fifteen minutes, I hope she also sang her way out of future paying jobs.

I don’t think we need a new National Anthem. The origin of ours represents a moment in our history as a nation. I’d like to see more people learn it and most importantly, sing it.
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I wouldn't mind replacing it with America The Beautiful. It's easier to sing, lovely, and not so much with all the bombs.
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Actually I prefer The Star-Spangled Banner...lowly origins aside, I think it's a more stirring melody, not as "lovely" or soothing as America The Beautiful for sure, but when watching something like the Olympics for example, I find it much more distinctive-sounding by comparison. Plus it's completely secular (well, except for the fourth verse, but almost nobody knows more than the first verse anyhow).
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Plus it's completely secular (well, except for the fourth verse, but almost nobody knows more than the first verse anyhow).

Good point!
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Since I've been on the Fort McHenry tour about fifty times I've developed a soft spot for The Star Spangled Banner. One thing the Park Service guides could never answer is why "To Anacreon in Heaven" was chosen for the melody. For those of us who manage a barely recognizable "Happy Birthday" it kills
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That melody is a killer, especially those high notes on "the rockets red glare and the bombs bursting in air"
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It gets very low, and it gets very high, for sure.

I suppose even if it were changed to something with a simpler melody, there would be singers who would make it all the more complicated and annoying with melismas and glory notes.
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If someone came up with a "White National Anthem" they'd be fired from their job and castigated all over the internet and news channels.
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Not exactly comparable is it?
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If someone came up with a "White National Anthem" they'd be fired from their job and castigated all over the internet and news channels.
I think there's a Bon Jovi joke or something waiting to be made here ...

Or a comment about the "Dixie" song (can't remember its exact name).
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If someone came up with a "White National Anthem" they'd be fired from their job and castigated all over the internet and news channels.
And you understand why this is, right?

Think of it this way--if an adult punches a kid in the stomach, the adult will be in a lot of trouble--he/she could be charged with abuse.

If a kid punches an adult in the stomach, he/she might get a strong talking to or some other kind of punishment (or if they are very small and just playing around-maybe it will just be laughed off). Obviously we wouldn't expect to get the police or social services involved.

So what's the difference? Punching people in the stomach is wrong, period. Right? Whoever punches someone in the stomach should be punished equally right?

Of course not. So what makes the difference?

What makes the difference is WHO HAS THE POWER.

This is why you can have a "black national anthem" and "historically black colleges" and "Black Student Associations" and "Black Entertainment Television" but not the white versions of these things. The POWER structure in the U.S.--the cultural "norms" are geared around white people already. They don't need to have anthems or colleges or associations or TV stations geared for them. They essentially already have that. For African-Americans it's been a historic struggle to even have a place at the white table so these kinds of institutions have grown up, as a response to exclusionary white society but also as a way of attempting to preserve and value the unqiue culture and experience of Black Americans.
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melismas and glory notes
The bane of all vocal music these days.
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