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Old 05-20-2008, 12:31 AM   #21
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Just parents with too much money showing off by lavishing excess onto their kids.

I wish I had too much money...
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:28 AM   #22
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An 11 year old child getting waxed? Creepy. I'm sorry..as a mom of three young daughters, I think it's sad to see today's kids act like they're minature adults. Whatever happened to enjoying childhood? At 11, 12, 13 years of age, I was still playing with my Barbies, and climbing trees.

One thing that really disturbs me... Every couple of years or so, I go to the tanning bed for a month or so to get some color for an upcoming vacation. I just finished up two months, and you wouldn't believe how many kids from 13 and up are going to the tanning beds now! Every other day, and some of these kids had tans that take a good 3 months or more to achieve. Melanoma? Cancer, anyone?!
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is this some sort of nation wide trend? or is this just a mildly sensationalistic story designed to get everyone upset about yet one more sign of the fall of western society?
the trend of over-sexualization of young girls has been well documented in recent years.
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the trend of over-sexualization of young girls has been well documented in recent years.


how is this sexual?

or is that in your head.

i used to shave my bikini/speedo line twice a year for the taper-and-shave championship swim meets.

wasn't sexual.
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and, as an aside, the sexualization of younger and younger girls has nothing to do with liberal or conservative or morality or whatever, and it has everything to do with cold, hard capitalism.

which is what this is about as well. spas create the perception of "need," which the mothers buy into, which their daughters see and want access to, and which in turn creates the perception of "need."

if you love money, if you love capitalism, if you love the free market ... stop complaining.
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how is this sexual?

or is that in your head.

i used to shave my bikini/speedo line twice a year for the taper-and-shave championship swim meets.

wasn't sexual.
oops. I read your previous post wrong.

no, I don't think there's anything innately sexual with a bikini wax.
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and, as an aside, the sexualization of younger and younger girls has nothing to do with liberal or conservative or morality or whatever, and it has everything to do with cold, hard capitalism.

which is what this is about as well. spas create the perception of "need," which the mothers buy into, which their daughters see and want access to, and which in turn creates the perception of "need."

if you love money, if you love capitalism, if you love the free market ... stop complaining.
a capitalist society may allow for a more excessive lifestyle, but the choice is still up to the individual. I choose to buy a product. I'm not a victim of materialism. I'm constantly barraged by marketing and images convincing me I "need" things but I still manage to live a fairly simple lifestyle.

I see the problem as parents not being able to say "no" to their kids.
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I see the problem as parents not being able to say "no" to their kids.


but my job, if i were in advertising or whatever, would be to compel you to say "yes" to your daughter, and i will use all the tools at my disposal to reduce your perception of actually having a voice in the matter. i will send messages that will tell your daughter -- who is far more likely to listen, being that she's so young -- that she is undesirable if she doesn't have my product.

if you can resist, more power to you, but most people can't, and don't.
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if you can resist, more power to you, but most people can't, and don't.
and that's the real issue. you blame the system for someone's inability to say "no". I say ownership of one's life allows us to transcend.

if I waste my day watching television, I don't blame capitalism for providing me with the television. I blame myself for not getting off my ass.
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There's nothing dirty about having pubic hair for god's sake...
Thank you!! Maybe it's just because I'm in my 40s, but I can remember when people weren't nearly as obssessed with getting rid of pubic hair. I always thought of it as just something you did if you were going swimming and didn't want any of it showing. It didn't have anything to do with being "unclean." (Then again, we had all those Summer's Eve commercials on TV when I was growing up, and having to douche for hygiene purposes is also a huge myth, so maybe we weren't so enlightened back then after all).
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i'd like to place my vote in the "shaving is better" category, if we were voting.

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i'd like to place my vote in the "shaving is better" category, if we were voting.

Better than what?

I would never shave down there. Waxing all the way.
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and that's the real issue. you blame the system for someone's inability to say "no". I say ownership of one's life allows us to transcend.

if I waste my day watching television, I don't blame capitalism for providing me with the television. I blame myself for not getting off my ass.


and that's what we want you to think.

we have less power than we think, and people work hard every day to take away that power.
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Better than what?

I would never shave down there. Waxing all the way.
No kidding. Shaving...it can be done, but only in eh...certain directions and it takes quite a while for the skin to get used to it, so to speak. Some people can never shave b/c the irritation is insane. It's not the same as legs and arm pits, not at all!
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I think it's fine for little girls to go and have their nails done, hair done, even mini facials, but this is absolutely ridiculous. I think the microdermabrasion could even be harmful, as the skin is so much younger and hasn't even really had any exposure to harmful skincare yet. Hopefully.
My thoughts exactly. Hair styling, nail polishing, a little skin lotion, fine. Maybe a bit much, but it can't hurt. But microdermabrasion at twelve years old?! What next, Baby Botox?!
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ok... let me rephrase... shaving or waxing is better than el natural.
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I think it's twisted. Hygiene for kids that age is soap and water and shampoo. Another example of adults imposing their hangups/issues on kids.
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