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Old 09-14-2007, 10:58 AM   #21
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perhaps there will be a seuqal... "i didn't rob that hotel room, but if i did, here's how"
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:49 PM   #22
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I like how OJ says he didn't do it, but if he did do it, (wink, wink) here's how. What a fool! I wonder what Nicole's children think of this book. They are the real losers here. They've lost their mother in the most horrible way and now their own father is saying this is how he would've killed her. I'd love to hear OJ explain that to his children.
Once again it just goes to show you how fucked up California is: We're not going to send you to prison for killing your ex-wife, but we're going to fine you 10 million dollars for doing so.

OJ can live on his NFL pension, which the courts can't touch. Therefore, no need for him to work ever again. Besides, who's going to hire the guy anyway? I would assume he's pretty much persona non grata wherever he goes. Most people think he did it anyway. Meanwhile, OJ arrogantly lives his life with his "I got away with it" attitude.
When people cheered for OJ's aquittal, they weren't glad an innocent man was set free. They were glad a guilty man got away with it after all the times an innocent man was sent to prison.
From what I heard, his children tried to set up some fund/account that would have given them $ from sales on the book.

This is taken from a column on FoxNews:

What’s really alarming is that those two children, Sydney and Justin, now in their late teens, don’t seem to care or understand what their father did to their mother. When Simpson first was going to sell the book and make money from it, they signed off on an agreement to form a dummy corporation in which they would profit from the proceeds.

And the link...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296746,00.html
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^ Maybe they believe their father is innocent?
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I watched the Oprah show yesterday, and it was quite fascinating. Marcia Clark & Christopher Darden were guests as well. I believe they said for a civil suit in Calif., restitution is awarded. As for the money, after all is said and done, the Goldman's only get 17cents a copy (I don't believe they care if it sells). A certain portion of any proceeds also go to an account for the Simpson children. I believe that the Simpson children had to sign off on the book originally. Clark said, if I remember correctly, that the chapter on the night of the murder was probably omitted in the original draft that OJ showed his kids, not that they read any of it. Supposedly OJ trashes Nicole thru the whole book blaming her for everything and calling her a slut. Oprah had a clip showing the evidence in the case. How the f**k did he get off (it's a rhetorical question here )

I understand where the Goldman's are coming from, and Ron's sister made some very interesting points. If you can find the interview, I think it's worth the watch

From Oprah's site:
http://www2.oprah.com/tows/pastshows...promocode=HP21

And no, I won't be buying or reading the book
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The estate has to go after the proceeds for Sidney and Justin-or maybe the dummy corporation is ultimately all for the killer's benefit. They understand what he did to their mother- how can anyone begin to understand what all of it has done to them, and continues to do?

It's ever so lovely that he continues to blame his dead wife who he butchered and call her a slut. I'm sure his kids will love reading that some day. He is one of the biggest pieces of scum that ever walked this earth.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:26 PM   #27
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Sources say OJ Simpson and five other men barged into a hotel room last night, and took various memorabilia once owned by Simpson -- at gunpoint!

It happened at the Palace Station Hotel last night at around 7:15. Alfred Beardsley, a memorabilia dealer, had secured various items once owned by Simpson. Beardsley has said he had the suit OJ wore the day he was acquitted of murder.

Beardsley tells TMZ he had arranged to meet with someone last night who was interested in buying the suit and other Simpson memorabilia. Beardsley says the man was actually a member of Simpson's crew. He says the men stormed the room, two of them with guns drawn.

Beardsley says the men claimed to be police officers. OJ and others demanded that Beardsley and two other men surrender their cell phones. Beardsley refused to do so. Beardsley says the group stole every piece of memorabilia in the room, including items signed by Joe Montana. They also took a case of never-released leather editions of Simpson's book, "I Want to Tell You."

Beardsley told TMZ he was uneasy about the arranged meeting and did not have the suit in the room when the six men entered.

Beardsley says he made a 911 call, and cops subsequently obtained a search warrant for the room. CSI investigators took Beardsley's phone and took DNA samples and photos of his body. Beardsley says one of the guys roughed him up.

Cops tell us Simpson was questioned but not placed in custody. There is an active robbery investigation underway.
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Well he/they shouldn't have taken the Montana stuff, but OJ claims the other things were stolen from him. Who knows of course...but a fine upstanding citizen like OJ? I'm sure he'd never steal [/sarcasm]
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I love the smell of OJ in handcuffs in the morning
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For some reason, this feels like they're trying to stick it to him for not having done it properly before which makes me doubt if the judicial system is really as objective as it should be.
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Now some people are saying he was setup, it's the victimization of OJ all over again

LOS ANGELES (AP) - If the Goldman family has its way, it may soon own the sports memorabilia O.J. Simpson is accused of committing armed robbery to recover for himself. Meanwhile, one man charged with the former football star said Tuesday that the Las Vegas hotel room dispute seemed like a setup.

Walter Alexander, 46, said Simpson may have been tricked because the memorabilia dealer who tipped him off also recorded everything on tape.

"It sounds like a setup to me," Alexander told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Tuesday. He said Simpson had thought the memorabilia belonged to him after getting a call from the dealer.

"He did believe that he was going to retrieve his own property," Alexander said.

Simpson was being held without bail Tuesday in Clark County Detention Center on six felonies, including two counts of robbery with use of a deadly weapon. Witnesses and authorities have said that they don't believe Simpson had a gun but that some of the men with him did. If convicted, Simpson could receive up to 30 years in state prison on each robbery count.

Simpson has been in and out of the spotlight since he was acquitted of murder in the deaths of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman.

The Goldman family, which won a civil verdict against Simpson, has waged a decade-long campaign to track down and claim his assets to fulfill the civil verdict. It planned to file a request in Superior Court on Tuesday to obtain ownership of the sports memorabilia seized.

David Cook, an attorney for Goldman's father, Fred Goldman, said he believed Nevada authorities would turn over the items with a court order after Simpson's criminal case finishes. The items include Simpson's Hall of Fame certificate, a gold Rolex watch and the suit Simpson wore on the day he was acquitted, Cook said.

"Assuming that this case is resolved one way or another, at the end of the case, the stuff will never go back to Mr. Simpson," Cook vowed. "He's going to walk out of Clark County empty-handed."

Another man suspected in the alleged heist surrendered Monday. Clarence Stewart, 53, of Las Vegas, lived at one of the residences that police searched early Sunday to recover some of the memorabilia.

Stewart turned over some of the missing goods, including footballs bearing autographs, police said. He was being held on six felony charges, including robbery with a deadly weapon and two counts of assault with a deadly weapon.

A fourth man, Tom Scotto, was questioned and cleared of suspicion after police concluded he was not in the room, reducing the number of outstanding suspects to two, police said. Both were apparently seeking attorneys and preparing to surrender, police said.

Alexander, who faces charges almost identical to Simpson's, said he went to Las Vegas for a wedding and not to see Simpson. "I just happened to get caught up in a bad situation," he told ABC's "Good Morning America."

Simpson's arraignment was set for Wednesday. Yale Galanter, Simpson's lawyer, said he was preparing a bond motion and will ask for Simpson's release on his own recognizance.

"If it was anyone other than O.J. Simpson, he would have been released by now," he said.

"You can't rob something that is yours," Galanter said. "O.J. said, 'You've got stolen property. Either you return it or I call the police.'"

The Goldmans hope the property never finds its way back to Simpson.

In 1997, a civil jury in Santa Monica returned $33.5 million in judgments against Simpson in a wrongful-death lawsuit by the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.

The jury awarded $8.5 million in compensatory damages to Ron Goldman's estate and a total of $25 million in punitive damages, divided equally between both estates. Despite extensive court hearings, however, most of the judgment has remained unpaid.

In 1999, seized personal property was auctioned off, raising only $430,000, more than half of it from the sale of his Heisman Trophy. The house itself did not generate anything toward paying the judgment. A bank foreclosed on the home, put it up for auction and bought it back.

Tuesday's hearing was originally scheduled in connection with any money the Goldmans say Simpson earned from a video game featuring his likeness.
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That's not exactly what he said, at least according to the tape that was released.

As legal experts have said on tv, it does not matter if he sincerely believed that stuff was his. If people went into the rooms with guns, even if O.J. didn't have a gun, it's still armed robbery.

Say if my car was stolen and I know who did it. I could go up to the guy and ask for my car back. I could not go up to the guy with two of my friends pointing guns at him and demand my car back.
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That's not exactly what he said, at least according to the tape that was released.

As legal experts have said on tv, it does not matter if he sincerely believed that stuff was his. If people went into the rooms with guns, even if O.J. didn't have a gun, it's still armed robbery.

Say if my car was stolen and I know who did it. I could go up to the guy and ask for my car back. I could not go up to the guy with two of my friends pointing guns at him and demand my car back.
So true. The thing is, I think the stuff probably was stolen from OJ. But gee, let's say you're OJ, you have to figure that if you bum rush some guy's hotel room packing heat the cops are going to charge you with everything they can think of, and maybe even make up some stuff on top of it. Not smart, Mr. Simpson.
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Fred Goldman and the Goldman family rub me the wrong way. They need to get over it. I'm not saying they need to get over losing their son - that's obviously something you never get over - I'm simply saying that they need to get over the hatred that has consumed them and is obviously still consuming them. Every time OJ is in the news for anything, they are sticking their heads in, either to say what a monster he is or to try to take something from him, monetary or material, in attempt to fulfill the civil settlement.

All the money in the world, OJ's Hall Of Fame certificate, a rolex, a suit, rights to a book he was going to publish, whatever, NONE of it is going to bring their son back and NONE of it is going to make them feel any better. At all. This much is fact.

If someone I love were murdered, I wouldn't WANT the murderer's money or his belongings. I'd probably just try to forget he exists and grieve by celebrating my child's life instead of allowing this intense hatred to consume me eternally.

These people are obviously tortured and they will be until they let go of this hatred that has weighed them down for so long.
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If someone brutally murdered someone I love and not only got away with it, but seemed to flaunt the fact that he got away with it, I'd find it next to impossible to let go of my hatred too.
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If someone brutally murdered someone I love and not only got away with it, but seemed to flaunt the fact that he got away with it, I'd find it next to impossible to let go of my hatred too.
Amen to that.
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ditto that kelly

and the Goldman's are doing whatever they can for restitution. Making sure that OJ gets nothing at whatever cost. And he shouldn't get anything, except a prison cell
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I'm not sure that I agree with the Goldmans decision to publish the book though. I can see why they wanted to own the rights, but I'm not sure why they went ahead and had it published, even if it had their commentary.

And now O.J. is charged with kidnapping too: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20829890/
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Fred Goldman and the Goldman family rub me the wrong way. They need to get over it. I'm not saying they need to get over losing their son - that's obviously something you never get over - I'm simply saying that they need to get over the hatred that has consumed them and is obviously still consuming them. Every time OJ is in the news for anything, they are sticking their heads in, either to say what a monster he is or to try to take something from him, monetary or material, in attempt to fulfill the civil settlement.

All the money in the world, OJ's Hall Of Fame certificate, a rolex, a suit, rights to a book he was going to publish, whatever, NONE of it is going to bring their son back and NONE of it is going to make them feel any better. At all. This much is fact.

If someone I love were murdered, I wouldn't WANT the murderer's money or his belongings. I'd probably just try to forget he exists and grieve by celebrating my child's life instead of allowing this intense hatred to consume me eternally.

These people are obviously tortured and they will be until they let go of this hatred that has weighed them down for so long.
He taunted Kim Goldman during that whole trial. He glared at her and even said taunting things to her. After the civil verdict he stated publicly that he would do everything possible to make sure Fred Goldman and his family never saw a cent from him. He was an arrogant sob before the criminal verdict, and became even more arrogant after getting away with two murders. One of his former agents was on Anderson Cooper last night and he admitted that he helped OJ avoid paying the judgment and hide his assets and income-you can read the transcript on cnn.com. So all that alone would make the average person very angry-let alone the act that he brutally murdered their beautiful son and brother who did nothing but try to help a woman because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

How you would react to it really has no bearing on how they should react. Frankly I'm so impressed that they do so well under the circumstances.
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