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Old 10-31-2001, 03:21 AM   #21
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z edge, are you drooling over Bono?
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I had too many 'kibbles n bits' today and i've been sick. I need somebody to play with me.
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Maybe it was just an itch that needed scratching....

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he probably needed to pick his nose really bad, might have had a 'hanger'.

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Some people relax with a drink. Some relax with a joint. The only difference is that one is illegal but relatively benign, and the other is legal but can be a deadly addiction. I'll take the illegal one anyday.

Plus, just because there's pot smoke backstage doesn't mean it's a band member, and even if it were, doesn't mean they are regular users. Bono's drinking is far more worrisome to me than a little weed.
Ok, i disagree with you. True, alcohol is legal and drugs are not.
So? Why should any of those be taken lightly? Both can kill people. I would never try drugs-i was never interested into them and their effects on people are just to scary. I can have a good time without them anytime with my friends and my family. I don't think i even know a single person who would be into drugs.
(i can't even get a sip of wine down my throat at birthdays or holidays-i can't stand the taste of alcohol. also, i don't smoke cigarettes-never been interested into them, plus they smell real bad. not to mention-why damage my health with it?)

Call me old-fashioned, but i would be highly dissapointed if U2 members did it.

And i don't accept the "people don't do it regularly, so it's ok" attitude. I can understand if a person tries drugs ONCE out of curiosity, but anything above that is beyond me. Also, there's a difference between getting drunk regularly and drinking, say, a glass or two at a meal.


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Old 10-31-2001, 09:34 AM   #24
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"The only difference is that one is illegal but relatively benign"

Really, so pot is benign? Oh, come on. Give me a break. That was probably the most nonsense I have read in a long time.

Ok, so from now on I will drop my glass of wine and smoke a joint.

Such nonsense.
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The band is not the only four people backstage dudes.

Let me just say that I was in the heart the heart that night and there were people lighting up in there.

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not wrong - the smell of it emanated throughout the whole show in the heart that night.
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"The only difference is that one is illegal but relatively benign"

Really, so pot is benign? Oh, come on. Give me a break. That was probably the most nonsense I have read in a long time.

Ok, so from now on I will drop my glass of wine and smoke a joint.

Such nonsense.

Relatively benign is what I said, as compared with alcohol. That is my informed opinion as well as my direct experience. You are welcome to yours as well and I certainly wasn't suggesting that everyone needs to smoke pot--you didn't have to be sarcastic. Smoke in one's lungs is never a good idea, but marijuana is an herb with medicinal value and, like anything, is best used in moderation if one desires to use it at all. I can't drink wine because I'm allergic to the sulfites and I hate the way alcohol makes me feel anyway. But a little weed here and there is nice for me.


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U2girl > I'd like to see any stats you might know about concerning how many deaths are reported each year from smoking marijuana alone. It's an herb and when used responsibly, is far less dangerous than alcohol or much of what exists in the average American medicine cabinet, for that matter. Of course it's not for everyone, but I don't understand why people get so freaked out about it.

Also, my best friend is dying of cancer. The meds they put him on were killing him faster. Now he's off the meds and using marijuana for pain and is doing much better.

But hey, I have no attachment to convincing anybody of anything. To each his own.


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Joyful girl, they also say that a little bit of wine every day is good for your health. The difference? One is legal and the other one is not. And, gee, I wonder why.

And I was sarcastic because of the way your post is written. I have no way of guessing information that it is not posted.
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One is legal and the other one is not. And, gee, I wonder why.
I have always wondered why, too. I guess you have a lot more confidence in the integrity our law-makers than I do. That's cool.

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And I was sarcastic because of the way your post is written. I have no way of guessing information that it is not posted
I don't know what that means. That's cool, too.

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I dont want to get in a big debate about pot or else I'll have to move this thread.. but people that have never tried it or whatever are like.. '' ohh pot is drugs, bad.. its scary, its going to make me act all crazy.. etc.. '' Not true with pot. True with harder drugs definately.

*sigh.. in fact I dont even consider pot a drug. It's an herb, it grows from the ground, has not been proven to be addicting, and cant kill you, unlike alcohol. And it does serve medicinal purposes.

To each his own basically, is what I'm saying. And if U2 wants to hit a joint every now and then, which I'm more than sure they do, that's fine by me. At least they're not doing coke or herioin.
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Sicy, I think you already turned this into a debate about pot.

Morphine also serves for medicinal purposes. And yet, it is a dangerous drug.
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Call me old-fashioned, but i would be highly dissapointed if U2 members did it.

i think you will find yourselves disappointed in a fair number of people in your life. successful individuals have been known to smoke up...it's really not that big of a deal.



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Old 10-31-2001, 01:48 PM   #34
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Sicy, I think you already turned this into a debate about pot.
I just added my two cents.. you guys started it.


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U2girl > I'd like to see any stats you might know about concerning how many deaths are reported each year from smoking marijuana alone. Of course it's not for everyone, but I don't understand why people get so freaked out about it.

Also, my best friend is dying of cancer. The meds they put him on were killing him faster. Now he's off the meds and using marijuana for pain and is doing much better.

But hey, I have no attachment to convincing anybody of anything. To each his own.

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There are no statistics about marijuana related deaths to be found and you know it. But does that necessarily mean no one ACTUALLY died?

Also, i was talking about drugs in general, not just marijuana.
Why people get freaked? Because it's addictive, and it does horrible things to your mind/brain, and to your internal organs, and it CAN kill you-both your body and your psyche. (again, this is general about drugs)

I have heard marijuana can ease pain for ill people (like in your friend's case). I guess that can be a "pro" reason for it.
And, wine in moderate measures (a glass or two a day) IS good for your health-particularly red wine - for prevention of coronary diseases.

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I dont want to get in a big debate about pot or else I'll have to move this thread.. but people that have never tried it or whatever are like.. '' ohh pot is drugs, bad.. its scary, its going to make me act all crazy.. etc.. '' Not true with pot. True with harder drugs definately.

*sigh.. in fact I dont even consider pot a drug. It's an herb, it grows from the ground, has not been proven to be addicting, and cant kill you, unlike alcohol. And it does serve medicinal purposes.

To each his own basically, is what I'm saying. And if U2 wants to hit a joint every now and then, which I'm more than sure they do, that's fine by me. At least they're not doing coke or herioin.
I don't believe what you said in the first paragraph. One of the reasons drugs scare me IS the fact you don't control yourself. And i don't ever want to find out what would happen to my personality or my psyche if i ever tried. Absolutely no intention and no desire.

Like i said in my upper post, i admit marijuana can be used for easing the pain in some medical cases. I don't believe it is not addicting.

Another reason to be against drugs is the addiction tends to increase crime-stealing etc... because people addicted to drugs spend all their money on it.

As for your last paragraph: "U2 hits a joint"? My ass they do. Come on, they are on tour, plus 3 of them have families. Do you really think they'd do it?
However, they probably drink alcohol. And nothing excessive, excluding Adam's problems a few years ago.

"At least they're not doing coke or heroin". No comment to that one.
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AGGGHHH! A U2 thread is in my forum!!!!
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I don't believe what you said in the first paragraph. One of the reasons drugs scare me IS the fact you don't control yourself. And i don't ever want to find out what would happen to my personality or my psyche if i ever tried. Absolutely no intention and no desire.

Like i said in my upper post, i admit marijuana can be used for easing the pain in some medical cases. I don't believe it is not addicting.

Another reason to be against drugs is the addiction tends to increase crime-stealing etc... because people addicted to drugs spend all their money on it.

As for your last paragraph: "U2 hits a joint"? My ass they do. Come on, they are on tour, plus 3 of them have families. Do you really think they'd do it?
However, they probably drink alcohol. And nothing excessive, excluding Adam's problems a few years ago.

"At least they're not doing coke or heroin". No comment to that one.
u2girl, maybe this is a debate you should stay out of because you've actually never smoked pot. And that's a good thing. But trust me. Pot is not addicting. That's been proven many times over.

Another thing, how do you know pot directly leads to crime? The only times I have done anything stupid or getting in trouble is when I'm drunk. I can guarantee you that there are many more alcohol related crimes than pot related crimes.

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It's rather telling that the folks here who feel that pot is dangerous and somehow worse than alcohol have admitted never trying it.
Look, I'm not a big fan of marijuana but anyone who really thinks that it is as dangerous and destructive as alcohol is insane. (Unless they subscribe to the "gateway drug" theory that is.)
Marijuana isn't even addictive in the medical sense as alcohol and morphine base drugs are. I do believe strongly though that it is psychologically addictive but you aren't going to find many ex potheads going through horrible withdrawal symptoms.
How about this: I've actually smoked pot in the past. I drink alcohol on a semi-regular basis and I even tried cocaine once. There is NO comparison. Marijauna won't do much for your personality but alcohol and cocaine are a thousand time more destructive.

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