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Old 09-09-2005, 12:15 PM   #1
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AP - Michael Brown being removed from managing Katrina Relief

I'd say that's a good thing.
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A good first step.

I hope they will follow up by restoring FEMA to a seperate agency apart from Homeland Security and put in place higher ups who have real emergency management experience.
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I hope they will follow up by restoring FEMA to a seperate agency apart from Homeland Security and put in place higher ups who have real emergency management experience.
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I hope they will follow up by restoring FEMA to a seperate agency apart from Homeland Security and put in place higher ups who have real emergency management experience.
Michael Brown oversaw 160+ disaster relief efforts during his tenure and was commended on several occasions by numerous publications for his effective leadership during those crises.

Unfortunately, he dropped the ball on this one and therefore his record is tarnished.
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Did anyone else see this?

Someone was questioning last night (CNN or CNBC) on how someone (Michael Brown) could have been so effective last year in managing the Florida hurricane situation but such a failure this year...the response was Jeb Bush. They said that he actually ran the response effort last year and made Michael Brown look competent.

Anyone in Florida that experienced this?
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Michael Brown oversaw 160+ disaster relief efforts during his tenure and was commended on several occasions by numerous publications for his effective leadership during those crises.

Unfortunately, he dropped the ball on this one and therefore his record is tarnished.
He was also heavily criticized by several Florida officials (of both political parties) for the way FEMA handled the hurricanes down here in 2004. We had this discussion in a previous thread.

This is not just Brown's fault. It's an organizational problem too.
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Did anyone else see this?

Someone was questioning last night (CNN or CNBC) on how someone (Michael Brown) could have been so effective last year in managing the Florida hurricane situation but such a failure this year...the response was Jeb Bush. They said that he actually ran the response effort last year and made Michael Brown look competent.

Anyone in Florida that experienced this?
I think that I read that part of the success was due to Florida having a very strong state emergency management director (who I assume was appointed by Jeb Bush).

The problems with FEMA occured later, in the relief money that they allocated to different counties and problems with fraud.
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Jimmy Carter?


Former Indiana Democrat congressman and 9/11 commissioner Tim Roemer called on President Bush to name former President Jimmy Carter to the head of efforts to rebuild New Orleans.

Roemer "The second thing we should do is put somebody like former President Jimmy Carter in charge of rebuilding New Orleans."


I don't think that Jimmy is the answer. But who?
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I thought he was doing a heckuva job???

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Former Indiana Democrat congressman and 9/11 commissioner Tim Roemer called on President Bush to name former President Jimmy Carter to the head of efforts to rebuild New Orleans.

Roemer "The second thing we should do is put somebody like former President Jimmy Carter in charge of rebuilding New Orleans."


I don't think that Jimmy is the answer. But who?
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Technically, he's still the head of FEMA. He's just being removed from Katrina duties.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9266986/
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I thought he was doing a heckuva job???

he is, but he is needed to start rebuilding Trent Lott's house

maybe they had to take action somehow to counteract the criticism, so maybe this is part of that I'm so confused and frustrated I don't know what to think anymore
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"Brown will be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad Allen, who earlier this week was named his deputy to oversee relief and rescue efforts." I saw that on the news briefly when I awoke. Brown is headed back to Washington. Allen will be in charge on the ground...
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Now it's truly a militarized zone

At least he's got to be better than Brown, he still should be fired.
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Oh, Brown's not being removed because he did a bad job. He's being removed so he can prepare "for other hurricanes" that might occur.

“Other challenges and threats remain around the world,” and Brown is needed to prepare for those, Chertoff said at a news conference in Baton Rouge.

Chertoff said the Brown "did all that he could do" for Katrina relief efforts.

Yeah, except turn on the tv to find out that there was no water at the Superdome. But other than that, he did just great .
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Oh, Brown's not being removed because he did a bad job. He's being removed so he can prepare "for other hurricanes" that might occur.

Chertoff said the Brown "did all that he could do" for Katrina relief efforts.

Yeah, except turn on the tv to find out that there was no water at the Superdome. But other than that, he did just great .
to be fair, the lack of preparations at the Superdome is not the fault of FEMA, rather the mayor of new orleans and the governor of louisiana.

that said, their job in response to the tragedy has been unacceptible and brown should lose his job.
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Michael Brown oversaw 160+ disaster relief efforts during his tenure and was commended on several occasions by numerous publications for his effective leadership during those crises.

Unfortunately, he dropped the ball on this one and therefore his record is tarnished.
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to be fair, the lack of preparations at the Superdome is not the fault of FEMA, rather the mayor of new orleans and the governor of louisiana.

that said, their job in response to the tragedy has been unacceptible and brown should lose his job.
True.

It just angers me that the administration still publicly backs him (although I think things might be different in private). Not for a second do I actually believe that he's being removed so he can focus on other things.
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