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Old 10-13-2005, 03:39 PM   #81
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i remember watching the Sydney show with a friend and during RTSS he asked me if any of them had had drug problems, and i said, "no, not to my knowledge, save for a small marijuana bust in 1989," and he said, "i don't believe that; there's way too much empathy and compassion in that song for it not to have some autobiography."
Hmmm...I wouldn't really agree with your friend. That RTSS bit is an artistic performance, like theatre. Bono was close to people who immersed themselves in heroin. I wouldn't deduce that he ever tried it. I don't know if he did or not, but I seriously doubt it. There is no way back from serious heroin use, other than rehab or death. Neither has occured to Bono.

Also look at Achtung Baby - most tracks are about experiences the Edge was going through, not Bono personally.

Look at the band the Manic Street Preachers - the lead singer doesn't write ANY of the lyrics, yet can still invest the songs with passion. The same applies to Depeche Mode, now that I think of it.
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Hmmm...I wouldn't really agree with your friend. That RTSS bit is an artistic performance, like theatre. Bono was close to people who immersed themselves in heroin. I wouldn't deduce that he ever tried it. I don't know if he did or not, but I seriously doubt it.

Also look at Achtung Baby - most tracks are about experiences the Edge was going through, not Bono personally.

Look at the band the Manic Street Preachers - the lead singer doesn't write ANY of the lyrics, yet can still invest the songs with passion. The same applies to Depeche Mode, now that I think of it.


yes, you're quite right.

i have no idea if Bono has done heroin or not.

but the songs mean more if i don't know, and have to imagine it.
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Apologize if I took your tense wrong, Irvine. Assumed it was conditional, that hypothetically there IS a current mistress. Past resolved mistress situation wouldn't change my opinion in the least. Current--still would bother me for a variety of reasons. I don't see U2 as saints or flawless. Although I have my own sacred cows (whom I also view with jaded eye), U2 was never one of them. I may perceive the U2 machine differently than some others so in order not to offend anyone, I'll keep any further opinions on the band to myself, although I admire them immensely for a whole slew of things.

You had a lovely post, though.

thank you for the nice words.

i also asked for an opinion and you gave one and that's fine, as you said. i have a different opinion, but so what?

i hope you didn't think i was going after your post -- i was just discussing in general, and please don't keep your opinions to yourself -- share them!

(they're always very interesting)
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I wouldn't deduce that he ever tried it. I don't know if he did or not, but I seriously doubt it. There is no way back from serious heroin use, other than rehab or death. Neither has occured to Bono.
I know many people who have tried heroin but not gotten addicted. It is possible. Trying heroin isn't the same as serious heroin use. That said, I don't otherwise disagree with your post.

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You had a lovely post, though.
Re: Irvine's previous post...indeed.
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We can all agree that Rush still sucks though, right?

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We can all agree that Rush still sucks though, right?


oh yes.

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I love that.
It speaks volumes.
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Old 10-13-2005, 03:49 PM   #88
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Nope, didn't think you were going after my post at all. (Though I just wanted it clear to the forum that any peccadillo on Bono's part would not cause my world or whole belief system to crumble. ) Even though I have to sometimes remember what website I'm on, even if it is FYM. So I wasn't worried about offending you.

You're a pleasure to discuss things with. You have a broad vision. I appreciate that. Sometimes that is rare.
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yes, you're quite right.

i have no idea if Bono has done heroin or not.

but the songs mean more if i don't know, and have to imagine it.

Excellent post as usual Irvine. But I ask one question to all of this. Doesn't it show what a decent guy Bono truly is? For Fat Bastard to retract anything that is spewed forth from that disgusting drug bloated face is truly remarkable. Assclown knows a lot of his tirades are half-truths anyways and for him to apologize to anything he says is unbelievable.


Another question that I ponder sometimes to myself is. Why in this god-forsaken world does Bono become such an easy target? What he does for all of his crusades are only for the good of the world? I know I'll here because; #1. He's doing this just for publicity of U2 or himself. #2 He has some kind of Jesus Complex and he has no right to go to Gov't's because he's just a rock star and on and on and on. I guess in the world we live in today you have to be a real ing hole to be liked by the mainstream public. Does anyone else think that's really screwed up or what?
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You're a pleasure to discuss things with. You have a broad vision. I appreciate that. Sometimes that is rare.

thank you, and to you as well.

you often have really interesting threads, and i don't participate because they're almost too thoughtful -- it's one thing to dash of quick posts about politics, but it's quite another to sit down and give them the attention they deserve.

i do enjoy reading them, though.
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Thank you.
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BonosSaint is such a lovely FYM participant, never anything but completely courteous and kind
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Wow. I consider that a huge compliment from one of the nicest, funniest people here.
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Wow. I consider that a huge compliment from one of the nicest, funniest people here.
Well I am just being honest. Thank you so much for your compliment

You are quite articulate and intelligent as well.
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Another question that I ponder sometimes to myself is. Why in this god-forsaken world does Bono become such an easy target?
You're not alone-I've always been curious about that, too. The things Bono does (or supposedly does) and says aren't all that different from what people who are generally admired by the public have done and said, so I'm not really sure why people treat it otherwise.

Also...*Looks at everyone getting along and being nice*

Awwww .

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Sometimes you just have to say you notice and appreciate.
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Sometimes you just have to say you notice and appreciate.
FYM would be a nicer place if that was done more often
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Ah, well. We've shown them how it's done.
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