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Old 02-27-2007, 04:57 PM   #121
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:57 PM   #122
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:57 PM   #123
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Does a cardiologist lose all credability on how people should eat low fat diets if he has a big steak for dinner?
thats not the same scenario. the cardiologist will only hurt himself by eating that steak. he can believe in his science and yet choose that lifestyle, it will only hurt himself. its his choice.

the environment is a common good. if you tell other people to take care of it (for the benefit of society), and don't do it yourself, then you are being a hypocrite.

still a hypocrite's message can be true, though.
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the mofo walked. like me.
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:59 PM   #125
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Then I say we start making a petition for all our congressmen/woman to make all cars use organic fuell, from corn stock. Bio diesel
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:00 PM   #126
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I didn't post this to debate global warming. Jesus will fix it. I just wanted to point out that Gore is a fraud.
And if he doesn't? Is Jesus a fraud, or his followers?

It reminds of the story of the man in the flood. A car, a boat, a helicopter all come to rescue him while the water raises higher. He turns them all down and says, God will save me. Finally the man only has his chimney to stand on before he drowns. When he's up in heaven he asks God, why didn't you save me, I've been such a loyal servant? God answers, what did you want me to do? I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter...

You call Gore a fraud without much to go on. I think that's called "bearing false witness upon your neighbor" or "gossip" in the Bible.

Who's the fraud now?
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:01 PM   #127
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thats not the same scenario. the cardiologist will only hurt himself by eating that steak. he can believe in his science and yet choose that lifestyle, it will only hurt himself. its his choice.
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That may be true, but he's still a hypocrite which could turn patients off of his advice. Do as I say and not as I do. Same could be said if he said quit smoking, yet he lights up as often as he can.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:14 PM   #129
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But what if he is wrong and it's a cycle the earth goes through every couple of thousands of years? Would you then put him in the Bush there are WMD's in Iraq box?
So we should go on wasting the earth to find out when we have the possibility to change the pollution we are causing?

I don't care what is in the Bible, or in Revelation 21:1, I want ot live in this world.
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Have they done research on volcanos? weather patters? What about the earths tilt could that have done something.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:50 PM   #131
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I agree.

But a bill alone doesn't have any context to it. I'm not the biggest Gore fan, but I'm not ready to call him a hypocrite just yet due to his electricity bill.
What about his international travel? Webcasting should be the first thing adopted by politicians; it saves taxpayers money and the environment.
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Justin, have you not read anything about global warming?
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What about his international travel? Webcasting should be the first thing adopted by politicians; it saves taxpayers money and the environment.
Yes webcasting is cool and yes it saves resources but we still live in a world where shaking a hand and eye to eye contact is important...
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Some not all I admit. But why should we also turn a blind eye to that of which I wrote?
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Didn't Al Gore say at the Oscars that it's not a political issue? I think he was either drunk or he's doing some naive wishful thinking. Republicans are certainly making it a political issue, and against a guy who says he's not even going to run.
And the use of the term denialist isn't political?
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Some not all I admit. But why should we also turn a blind eye to that of which I wrote?
We haven't, what makes you think anyone has?
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Because I have not seen anyone bring it up.
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Because I have not seen anyone bring it up.
No one's brought up Mel Gibson either, do you think he could be a factor?
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Some alarm bells should go off here for the more discerning reader.

First off, who the hell is "The Tennessee Center for Policy Research," and why should I care? It really doesn't take very much to be "an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization." That doesn't mean that you're not allowed to have an ideological slant, and a quick view of their website uncovers at least that much.

And, to that group's credit, they do make that ideological bend fairly clear. Here's the full disclaimer on their press release:

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/...article_id=367

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The Tennessee Center for Policy Research is an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions.
I guess that Drudge didn't see that part to be important enough, since nearly all "free market" types would rather see the world burn to the ground than do anything that might lead to higher taxes.

Considering their bias, I'm already suspect of their claims. But that's not to say that one shouldn't be suspect of Gore. By the way, he does have a response to this:

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A day after actor Leonardo DiCaprio hailed Al Gore on the Oscar stage as a "inspirational leader in the fight against global warming," the former vice president was forced to respond to charges from a Tennessee organization that his home consumes significantly more energy than the national average.

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that Gore's "mansion" "consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year."

"The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh -- more than 20 times the national average," the group charged in a statement.

"Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," the groups president Drew Johnson said in the statement.

But a spokesman for Gore quickly fired back Monday night, claiming, "The Gore's purchase all of their power through the local Green Powerswitch program -- it is 100 percent renewable power."

"In addition, they are in the midst of a renovation which includes installing solar panels on their home, which will enable them to use less power," Gore's spokeswoman Kalee Kreider said in a statement.
Ouch. I guess the "nonpartisan, independent" Tennessee Center for Policy Research left out that part.
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