An example of liberal immaturity.

[Johnny Swallow]

"Dubya"

A deliberate play on a man's middle initial. Calling him "W" would be understandable, but to call him "Dubya" is very childish. It just goes to show how some people will resort to name-calling when they have no arguments of any substance.

Do/did I ever call Ex-Prez Clinton 'Slick willie' / 'Bubba' / 'J-Dawg' or any lame name? No, he has a name and I called him by it.

Anyway, just an observation. If this applies to you, grow up.

 

[DrTeeth]

Being political correct sucks.

Maybe Dubya should grow up first....

[This message has been edited by DrTeeth (edited 08-09-2001).]

 

[Henry Rollins]

It is something that people can do without saying but ideological differences can make people say bad things with no apologies.

~rougerum

 

[Johnny Swallow]

Originally posted by DrTeeth:
Being political correct sucks.

It's not about being PC, it's about being more mature than grade-schoolers.

 

[DrTeeth]

I don't understand what the fuss is all about. I could call him Dubya or W or Mr. President or darling, but that doesn't change the fact that I believe he is an idiot and a dangerous man.

 

[80sU2isBest]

Actually, I think Johnny Swallow is kidding. I call him Dubya, and I'm probably his biggest supporter of all time. I don't see anything wrong with that nickname.

 

[U2Bama]

Johnny Swallow:

You racist, homophobic, theocratic, right winger, when will you realize that it ONLY GOES ONE WAY?!?!?! And we U2 fans are not supposed to like President George W. "Dubya" Bush anyway. Bono said so.

~U2Alabama

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[Salome]

Originally posted by U2Bama:
when will you realize that it ONLY GOES ONE WAY?!?!?!

you must be kidding Bama, it took me over 2 1/2 years to figure out Clinton's name wasn't Bubba

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[frogbat]

thought he was the comeback kid or was he the stain devil?

 

[clarityat3am]

Remembers that her grandmother taught her that discussing religion and politics can make her enemies very quickly. <sneaks out and closes the door quietly>

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[The Wanderer]

3 1/2 more years of Dick & Bush

Swallow, are you taking the piss?

after 8 years of "Bubba - Gump" you need to lighten up, at least we don't fantasize about his daughters, err... well, at least we don't serve his daughters alcohol

it's all strategerizing

 

[melon]

I'm sorry, Swa-Lo, but I see this as an example of the swinging pendulum. Need I remind you of examples of conservative immaturity during the Clinton era?

1) 'Slick Willie'

2) Soon after his election, there were already 'Impeach Clinton' bumper stickers all over the place. I haven't seen one 'Impeach Dubya' (or likewise) anywhere.

3) The entire Whitewater-Travelgate-Monica scandals. Whitewater, admittedly, was a scandal worth investigating; but the rest were childish attempts to discredit him and stall the legislative process. Impeachment was ridiculous as well, especially knowing that, from the start, it would be voted on party lines.

4) Countless jokes about blow jobs and cigars.

So, you see, making fun of Dubya only on the basis of his name (although for me, it's only because I find it easier to say that, rather than George Bush, Jr.) and his incredibly poor grammar is only a natural pendulum swing from when conservatives endlessly made fun of Clinton.

Always keep the pendulum in mind when starting anything, as even in the French Revolution, those who guillotined the royal family were eventually guillotined themselves.

Melon

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?Confused by thoughts, we experience duality in life. Unencumbered by ideas, the enlightened see the one reality.? - Hui-neng (638-713)

 

[80sU2isBest]

Originally posted by melon:
3) The entire Whitewater-Travelgate-Monica scandals. Whitewater, admittedly, was a scandal worth investigating; but the rest were childish attempts to discredit him and stall the legislative process. Impeachment was ridiculous as well, especially knowing that, from the start, it would be voted on party lines.

Ummm...excuse me, Melon...but let me remind you that the impeachment was not about
sex; it was about lying to a Federal grand jury, which by the way is something you or I would've been thrown in jail immediately for.

 

[Johnny Swallow]

Well Wanderer/Melon, I see your points. But I still find it immature. I never implied that calling Clinton 'bubba' and crap like that wasn't immature, it was.

I have to say though, at least 'Dick & Bush' is funny. That one does make me laugh. I still do have a sense of humor for a black-heart.

 

[Henry Rollins]

Actually what most people don't know that Clinton getting sex from Monica was against the law since they were both working for the federal government and there is a federal law saying that saying that a person in the government can not sleep with someone also in the government who holds a lower position. They made this law so higher officials wouldn't pressure people in lower positions to do things they wouldn't want to do. So even for sex, Clinton should have been gone.

~rougerum

 

[DrTeeth]

Originally posted by Henry Rollins:
....and there is a federal law saying that saying that a person in the government can not sleep with someone also in the government who holds a lower position.

And they call the US the land of the free?

 

[U2Bama]

DrTeeth, the intent of such legislation was to prevent sexual harassment and pressure in the workplace; starting with the federal government (which would be enforcing such laws) so as to set a good example.

Why is it SO important for politicians, be they Republican or Democrat, to have affairs? It's almost like some of you are more concerned about their right to have affairs than you are for their duty to spend our taxpayer money wisely.

~U2Alabama

 

[z edge]

Originally posted by melon:
I'm sorry, Swa-Lo, but I see this as an example of the swinging pendulum. Need I remind you of examples of conservative immaturity during the Clinton era?

1) 'Slick Willie'

2) Soon after his election, there were already 'Impeach Clinton' bumper stickers all over the place. I haven't seen one 'Impeach Dubya' (or likewise) anywhere.

3) The entire Whitewater-Travelgate-Monica scandals. Whitewater, admittedly, was a scandal worth investigating; but the rest were childish attempts to discredit him and stall the legislative process. Impeachment was ridiculous as well, especially knowing that, from the start, it would be voted on party lines.

4) Countless jokes about blow jobs and cigars.

So, you see, making fun of Dubya only on the basis of his name (although for me, it's only because I find it easier to say that, rather than George Bush, Jr.) and his incredibly poor grammar is only a natural pendulum swing from when conservatives endlessly made fun of Clinton.

Always keep the pendulum in mind when starting anything, as even in the French Revolution, those who guillotined the royal family were eventually guillotined themselves.

Melon

Melon,
Do we wanna do this again? I'm sorry but I can't resist.
My only comment for NOW would be that the "countless jokes about blowjobs and cigars" IS justified given the nature of the occurence(s).
There's plenty of jokes going around now about cocaine, alcoholism, language/grammar, daughters, and heart attacks.

YOU all will come up with plenty more before this term is up.

 

[pub crawler]

Originally posted by z edge:

There's plenty of jokes going around now about cocaine, alcoholism, language/grammar, daughters, and heart attacks.

YOU all will come up with plenty more before this term is up.

Yep, the partisan politics slamming will go on until the end of the world. I could do without it, but I guess it's human nature.

 

[z edge]

Pub Crawler,
You are absolutely right. (I just crawled back from a few pubs a little while ago myself)

The truth is, as somebody (maybe J Swallow) said, it's funny. Hell, I will say it, I find it all funny. As long as nobody gets hurt. There is a fine line, but the involved parties know this going into it. They are all humans who screw up and they will all be on somebodies' monolouge from time to time.

 

[melon]

Originally posted by 80sU2isBest:
Ummm...excuse me, Melon...but let me remind you that the impeachment was not about
sex; it was about lying to a Federal grand jury, which by the way is something you or I would've been thrown in jail immediately for.

Lying seems to come with the job. List any president and you'll find tons of lies. Lying about sex, undoubtedly, is the least of all evils. Lying about everything else is listed as 'national security.' I don't know what is more unethical: lying and not getting caught or lying and getting caught. The latter seems to be the faux pas of politicians, while the former is a matter of boastful pride.

Melon

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[melon]

And as a final thought, I never said that no one couldn't make fun of Clinton--such is the nature of free speech. However, don't come crying when the tables are turned and people are making fun of the current despot in office. It comes with the territory.

Melon

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?Confused by thoughts, we experience duality in life. Unencumbered by ideas, the enlightened see the one reality.? - Hui-neng (638-713)

 

[U2Bama]

Originally posted by melon:
List any president and you'll find tons of lies.

Bill Clinton didn't lie; he's a Democrat. At least that's how someone explained it to me.

 

[80sU2isBest]

Originally posted by melon:
Lying seems to come with the job. List any president and you'll find tons of lies. Lying about sex, undoubtedly, is the least of all evils.

Melon, Melon, Melon - whether they all lie or not, the point is that they don't all lie to a federal grand jury!

 

[Cathy]

I don't expect the Democrats to act any less childish about name-calling, and jokes and such than the Republicans have been about Clinton. It all comes with the territory and is, for the most part, just for fun. It is sorta pointless to get angry when you see those things isn't it?

So, all in the name of good fun

this is for the Republicans.

Hey Melon! Check out these anti-Bush bumper stickers on this website. There's even a, you guessed it, IMPEACH BUSH sticker there. Funny huh? http://www.gwbush.com/store/order.html

And to be fair, this is for the Democrats...

It is all really childish isn't it?




[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited 08-11-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited 08-11-2001).]

 

[z edge]

Bravo Cathy!

 

[Like O2]

Originally posted by 80sU2isBest:
Actually, I think Johnny Swallow is kidding. I call him Dubya, and I'm probably his biggest supporter of all time. I don't see anything wrong with that nickname.

Ya took the words right outta my mouth. Another dyed in the wool republican here who refers to the President as Dubya. I don't think it's disrespectful at all, just a nickname. My family calls me Linky, not the best sounding nickname, but they love me......

don't they????........

oh, no........

*O2 runs to call her Mom*



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[bonoman]

ok i could really careless about a nickname. Like come on people its a NICKNAME!

But what i would like to do is through a situation out there.

Say CLinton never got elected. Hilary did. But Hilary did all the same things Bill did. Would she have gotten the same bad rap from the media and the public.

I think everybody would have laughed it off. All the men would have been like OH YEAH!

just a thought...

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[Trash Can]

Dubya...


Dubya Dubya Dubya!!

"LINKY"?????

 

[Like O2]

Originally posted by Trash Can:
"LINKY"?????