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Old 04-18-2003, 11:34 PM   #1
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America Is Number One

Somebody emailed this to me... I thought it was interesting, ironic, and at some points sad.

Anyways.......

AMERICA IS NUMBER ONE IN:
-millionaires
-billionaires
-military spending
-firearm deaths
-beef production
-per capita energy use (25% of the world's energy to be accurate)
-carbon dioxide emmisions (more than Australia, Brazil, Canada, France, India, Indonesia, Germany, Italy, Mexico, and the United Kingdom combined)
-hazardous waste produced (by a factor of more than twenty times our nearest competitor; Germany)
-total and per capita municipal waste (720 kilograms per person per year)
-oil consumption
-natural gas consumption
-the least amount of tax revenue generated ( as a % of GDP)
-the least amount of federal and state government social spenditure compared to all the developed world.
-budget deficit(as a % of GDP)
-daily per capita consumption of calories
-loest voter turnout
-least number of political parties represented in the lower or single house(democrat or republican)
-recorded rapes (by a factor of almost 3 times our nearest competitor; Canada)
-injuries and deaths from road accidents (almost twice as many as runner-up Canada)
-births to mothers under the age of 20(again, more than twice as many as Canada, and nearly twice as many as number two NZ)
-the number of human rights treaties not singned
-among countries in the UN with a legally constituted government to not ratify the convention on the rights of the child
number of known executions of child offenders
likelihood of children under the age of 15 to die from gunfire
-likelihood of children under the age of 15 to commit suicide with a gun
-lowest eight-grade math scores
-becoming the first society in history which the poorest group of the population are children


-America Also has the highest rate of church goers among the developed world
-59% of Americans believe that they have a special place in God's heart.
-46% of Americans consider themselves to be "born again" or "evangelical" Christians
-the lowest health coverage for its citizens
-the highest number of Tvs per house (98% of Americans own atleast 1 TV)
-67% of welfare recepients are children
-the highest rate of date rapes, auto accidents resulting from alcohol, teen drug addiction.
-15-20 million Americans are homeless.
-Over 30 million Americans are without health coverage including many children.
-the highest media monopoly among the developed world ( only 3 media giants own practically all the newspapers, magazines, tv channells and radio stations)
-the highest rate of per capita owenership of guns (more guns in America than people)
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:21 AM   #2
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I think that I remember reading this in the Michael Moore book, "stupid white men". Very interesting, thanks for posting!
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Leave it to Canada to start a thread like this...so typical. Let's see, what has Canada done for the world? Not much other than complain...

And Michael Moore? This guy needs to find a new country to call home - hey, any room up there Canada? Oh wait, OF COURSE there is! No huge immigration problem in your country, "eh"???
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Calm down, Zoocoustic...
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Its definately not all negative. Besides the obvious argument that America does a few things better than other countries.

Lets refrain from bashing America and whinging about what other countries do or do not do, yeah?
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ive seen this before, recycled inflamitory crap.
i wont be baited.
also i do feel that-
canadians are ppl too, some of the ladies even know how to dance up there...

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Re: America Is Number One

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-recorded rapes (by a factor of almost 3 times our nearest competitor; Canada)

Just wanted to note also that the "recorded rapes" only account for about 5% of all rapes that actually happen in the US.

Yeah, something needs to be done about that.
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This thread needs to generate some vaild debate or it will be closed.
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what has Canada done for the world?
Canada did give us ice hockey and Kids in the Hall...that's good enough for me.

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This thread needs to generate some vaild debate or it will be closed.
Please DO close the thread. It used to be against forum policy to start threads that simply fanned the flames of anger rather than debate. That is obviously the case with this thread.
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Please DO close the thread. It used to be against forum policy to start threads that simply fanned the flames of anger rather than debate. That is obviously the case with this thread.

Second the motion... I am pretty certain that the Reading Score thing is innacurate.
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i wont be baited.





ahahahahahahahaahahaa.....
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Hmm. Well, as often is the case with things that come through email, they lack a source. If this were to generate a discussion about these solely as statistics and areas where American society needs to look toward finding solutions to obvious problems, then fine. There's many issues that can lead to fruitful discussion in here, but if people choose not to, and it stays along the lines it is, it will be closed.
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Re: America Is Number One

I'm inclined to agree with Dreadsox and 80s that this post is just inflammatory, but I think there are some interesting points here, so it might be as well to try and have a decent discussion of them, rather than just closing it right away.

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Over 30 million Americans are without health coverage including many children.
I live in a country where we have a National Health Service which provides healthcare to all citizens and is free at the point of consumption. Personally I believe this is absolutely essential as I don't believe a person should ever be denied healthcare because of their ability or inability to pay for it.

So, do people think it would be a good idea if America had some kind of national health care system, which ensured that everyone could have access to basic healthcare, regardless of their economic position?

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-the highest rate of per capita owenership of guns (more guns in America than people)
-firearm deaths


Do people believe these are related and if so do you think stricter control on gun ownership would be advisable?
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Old 04-19-2003, 02:56 PM   #15
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Yes the email was inflamitory but I think some of it is actually the truth.

Anyways, with so many socio-economic problems in the U.S., I think it would be fair to allocate spending to such domestic issues rather than have such a massive military budget (I've heard they spend 300 billion, not sure though) to support American Foreign policy/imperialism.
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I completely agree with you! The last figure I heard for US military spending was $368 billion (interestingly enough, the US national debt is just a little under $400 billion...) which is greater than the military spending of the next fourteen countries added together.

The US already has a military much larger (and no doubt technologically superior) than the rest of the world...it seems absolutely unnecessary that so much money is invested in it when so many people are without healthcare, or a decent education, or even a home. I'm especially shocked by how much money has been spent and is planned to be spent on the National Missile Defence project, which is not only extremely expensive, but I also think is very dangerous as it would give the United States the ability to use nuclear weapons against another country without the fear of retaliation.

So, yes - I agree. Money should be dedicated to social problems, not only in the US, but around the world, rather than an ever-increasing military budge. Although I guess that my beliefs there are fairly obvious if you just look at my signature!
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I agree the thread could be closed if it turned into just a bashing thread.

It would be easy to create a thread listing why America is number one in only posative things.


But, Fizz breaks out two serious items. Healthcare and Firearms.


Healthcare is one of America’s biggest problems. It possibly is the perfect storm that could hit in the 2004 election.

By separating out the uninsured, or should I say the uninsurable and playing them off against those who do have health care the status quo is maintained. The politicians are bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies and the health insurance companies. All this administration has done is lobby to cap malpractice awards. This was done in California insurance rates stabilized for awhile and the started up again. It took insurance regulation to control the costs.

More and more employed are paying larger ins. premiums with higher co pays and deductibles. Soon the costs of healthcare will be out of the reach or unattainable of too many and some true reform and regulation will be passed.
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The only way we'll get healthcare costs addressed with any seriousness in the US is when those in Congress have to use the same systems and payment methods the average Joe has to use. Until then, squat will get done.


Oh, and I think this thread is lame. It's easy to post facts and figures without any back-up information for them.
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i really miss my international health policy class. too bad i had to drop this class because i was suppose to do a paper regarding this very issue.
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