alcohol on sunday?

The Wanderer · 01-22-2002, 09:24 PM

is this sinful? what's God & Jesus' official stance on this? (I remember being surprised when moving to the DC/Virginia area that liquor is not sold on sunday... though you can still purchase plenty of beer or wine and get bombed that way, or just buy your liquor on saturday or go to a bar)

also, do "morality laws" such as this defeat the purpose? people are not abstaining because they believe in it, but because they have no choice

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pax · 01-22-2002, 09:36 PM

I just talked to God, and She demurred on the subject; Jesus seems to think it's all right as long as you share some of your cheap red wine with a bum outside your church.

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Anthony · 01-22-2002, 09:38 PM

I don't get it, everybody imbibes alcohol when they supposedly drink the blood of Christ anyway, I don't see what the controversy is.

If you're a Christian with your own set of ideals and moralities, you should stick to them everyday, not just on Holy Sunday.

Ant.

mikal · 01-22-2002, 09:39 PM

If drinking on Sunday is a sin, I'm going to hell.

BTW, would this count if you're drinking Saturday night into early Sunday morning? I've done that one a lot too.

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The Wanderer · 01-22-2002, 09:41 PM

how do you get the wine in your bum? or can it be anyone's bum?

speedracer · 01-22-2002, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Wanderer:
is this sinful? what's God & Jesus' official stance on this? (I remember being surprised when moving to the DC/Virginia area that liquor is not sold on sunday... though you can still purchase plenty of beer or wine and get bombed that way, or just buy your liquor on saturday or go to a bar)

also, do "morality laws" such as this defeat the purpose? people are not abstaining because they believe in it, but because they have no choice

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love is blindness, I don't want to see

Silly Puritan laws.

I think Puritans drank plenty of beer the rest of the week, they just thought drinking on Sunday was wrong. I don't know of any other denomination that holds this view, though.

Kieran McConville · 01-22-2002, 10:22 PM

I actually cannot believe this question is even being asked. But, that said, let's leave God out of it just this once, maybe.

I really don't think it rates that high on the list. Sunday is only God's day if you regard it, and treat it, as such. For the non-Christians out there, it's just another day. End of story.

zooropamanda · 01-23-2002, 06:35 AM

The Catholic church obviously doesn't have much say in DC.

80sU2isBest · 01-23-2002, 10:21 AM

I don't think that drinking alcohol on any day of the week is necessarily wrong. I don't drink - that's a personal decision, partially based on alcoholism in my family. But, according to the Bible, getting drunk is wrong (on any day of the week).

mikal · 01-23-2002, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by 80sU2isBest:
But, according to the Bible, getting drunk is wrong (on any day of the week).

Hmmm....

I don't remember that part of the Bible.

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WildHoneyAlways · 01-23-2002, 01:29 PM

I have no clue what the offical stance is but alcohol is not sold until after Noon on Sundays where I'm from. This was to keep people from drinking and then going to church or Mass if you're Catholic.

IvanClaytonJnr · 01-23-2002, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Wanderer:
is this sinful? what's God & Jesus' official stance on this? (I remember being surprised when moving to the DC/Virginia area that liquor is not sold on sunday... though you can still purchase plenty of beer or wine and get bombed that way, or just buy your liquor on saturday or go to a bar)

also, do "morality laws" such as this defeat the purpose? people are not abstaining because they believe in it, but because they have no choice

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speedracer · 01-23-2002, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by mikal:
Hmmm....

I don't remember that part of the Bible.

Ephesians 5:18, RSV: "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery; but be filled with the Spirit."

You can read the whole chapter in a number of different versions at http://www.gospelcom.net/bible

mikal · 01-23-2002, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speedracer:
Ephesians 5:18, RSV: "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery; but be filled with the Spirit."

You can read the whole chapter in a number of different versions at http://www.gospelcom.net/bible

hmmm....yep, I'm definitely going to hell folks.

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Look what you did, you little JERK!

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pax · 01-23-2002, 06:18 PM

But what if you get drunk on, say, tequila?

speedracer · 01-23-2002, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by mikal:
hmmm....yep, I'm definitely going to hell folks.

Well, if you gave yourself a concussion and forgot you read this thread, maybe you can be forgiven.

scatteroflight · 01-23-2002, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by mikal:
Hmmm....

I don't remember that part of the Bible.

There's a really amazing description of drunkenness in Proverbs, I think it is. Pretty graphic.

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speedracer · 01-23-2002, 09:05 PM

Proverbs 23:31-35:

Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!

In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.

Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things.

You will be like one sleeping on the high seas, lying on top of the rigging.

"They hit me," you will say, "but I'm not hurt! They beat me, but I don't feel it! When will I wake up so I can find another drink?"

Also let us not forget the counsel of the Bard:

MACDUFF.
Was it so late, friend, ere you went to bed,
That you do lie so late?

PORTER.
Faith, sir, we were carousing till the second cock: and drink, sir, is a great provoker of three things.

MACDUFF.
What three things does drink especially provoke?

PORTER.
Marry, sir, nose-painting, sleep, and urine. Lechery, sir, it provokes and unprovokes; it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance: therefore much drink may be said to be an equivocator with lechery: it makes him, and it mars him; it sets him on, and it takes him off; it persuades him, and
disheartens him; makes him stand to, and not stand to: in conclusion, equivocates him in a sleep, and giving him the lie, leaves him.

~LadyLemon~ · 01-23-2002, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by mikal:
hmmm....yep, I'm definitely going to hell folks.

You and me both! But that's OK--I don't believe in hell as a place, just as a state of mind.

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LarryMullen's POPAngel · 01-23-2002, 09:50 PM

If we're going on last weekend alone then count me in on that trip to hell, you guys.

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01-22-2002, 09:24 PM	#1
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 09:54 AM	alcohol on sunday? is this sinful? what's God & Jesus' official stance on this? (I remember being surprised when moving to the DC/Virginia area that liquor is not sold on sunday... though you can still purchase plenty of beer or wine and get bombed that way, or just buy your liquor on saturday or go to a bar) also, do "morality laws" such as this defeat the purpose? people are not abstaining because they believe in it, but because they have no choice ---------- love is blindness, I don't want to see __________________

01-22-2002, 09:36 PM	#2
pax ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ewen's new American home Posts: 11,412 Local Time: 10:54 AM	I just talked to God, and She demurred on the subject; Jesus seems to think it's all right as long as you share some of your cheap red wine with a bum outside your church. ------------------ If you cannot live together in here, you cannot live together out there, let me tell ya. --Bono You've got to cry without weeping, talk without speaking, scream without raising your voice... --Bono __________________

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LarryMullen's POPAngel Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'll be up with the sun, I'm not coming down... Posts: 53,698 Local Time: 09:54 AM	If we're going on last weekend alone then count me in on that trip to hell, you guys. ------------------ Cut out the poetry Let's hit the main artery No time for a tourniquet Let the colour's all run out of me __________________

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01-22-2002, 09:38 PM	#3
Anthony Refugee Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,538 Local Time: 02:54 PM	I don't get it, everybody imbibes alcohol when they supposedly drink the blood of Christ anyway, I don't see what the controversy is. If you're a Christian with your own set of ideals and moralities, you should stick to them everyday, not just on Holy Sunday. Ant.

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mikal Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Black Lodge Posts: 28,295 Local Time: 09:54 AM	If drinking on Sunday is a sin, I'm going to hell. BTW, would this count if you're drinking Saturday night into early Sunday morning? I've done that one a lot too. ------------------ Look what you did, you little JERK! Kevin! You're such a disease!

01-22-2002, 09:41 PM	#5
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 09:54 AM	how do you get the wine in your bum? or can it be anyone's bum?

01-22-2002, 10:22 PM	#7
Kieran McConville ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hi, Violet Posts: 10,253 Local Time: 12:54 AM	I actually cannot believe this question is even being asked. But, that said, let's leave God out of it just this once, maybe. I really don't think it rates that high on the list. Sunday is only God's day if you regard it, and treat it, as such. For the non-Christians out there, it's just another day. End of story.

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zooropamanda Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Smile, you're reading my post Posts: 6,515 Local Time: 12:54 AM	The Catholic church obviously doesn't have much say in DC.

01-23-2002, 10:21 AM	#9
80sU2isBest Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,970 Local Time: 09:54 AM	I don't think that drinking alcohol on any day of the week is necessarily wrong. I don't drink - that's a personal decision, partially based on alcoholism in my family. But, according to the Bible, getting drunk is wrong (on any day of the week).

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WildHoneyAlways Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In a glass case of emotion Posts: 8,161 Local Time: 09:54 AM	I have no clue what the offical stance is but alcohol is not sold until after Noon on Sundays where I'm from. This was to keep people from drinking and then going to church or Mass if you're Catholic.

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pax ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ewen's new American home Posts: 11,412 Local Time: 10:54 AM	But what if you get drunk on, say, tequila?

01-23-2002, 09:05 PM	#18
speedracer Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,604 Local Time: 10:54 AM	Proverbs 23:31-35: Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly! In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper. Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things. You will be like one sleeping on the high seas, lying on top of the rigging. "They hit me," you will say, "but I'm not hurt! They beat me, but I don't feel it! When will I wake up so I can find another drink?" Also let us not forget the counsel of the Bard: MACDUFF. Was it so late, friend, ere you went to bed, That you do lie so late? PORTER. Faith, sir, we were carousing till the second cock: and drink, sir, is a great provoker of three things. MACDUFF. What three things does drink especially provoke? PORTER. Marry, sir, nose-painting, sleep, and urine. Lechery, sir, it provokes and unprovokes; it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance: therefore much drink may be said to be an equivocator with lechery: it makes him, and it mars him; it sets him on, and it takes him off; it persuades him, and disheartens him; makes him stand to, and not stand to: in conclusion, equivocates him in a sleep, and giving him the lie, leaves him.