a condom with teeth - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-08-2007, 04:10 PM   #1
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 32,356
Local Time: 04:43 AM
a condom with teeth

words fail me.

[q]Clamping down on rapists in South Africa
Prerna Mankad
Wed, 04/11/2007 - 3:12pm.

Later this month, South African women will be able to purchase the Rapex device, marketed as the "anti-rape condom." The rapex, shaped like a female condom, is worn internally and equipped with 25 teeth in its lining. The razor-sharp teeth fasten on the attacker's penis if he attempts penetration. Since the device does no lasting damage to the attacker, it is completely legal and will sell for 1 Rand (around 14 cents) when it hits stores. The majority of women surveyed about the device said they would be willing to use it.

The inventor of Rapex, South African Sonette Ehler, a former medical technician, got the idea when a traumatized rape victim lamented to her, "If only I had teeth down there."

Of course, the product is not without controversy or critics. Some argue that the device may encourage rapists to attack their victims further, placing women in even greater danger. Ehler's response is that women are already faced with that danger, and at least this way the man is disabled momentarily, allowing the victim to get away. Others criticize the method as "vengeful," to which Ehler responds: "[It's] a medieval device for a medieval deed." More philosophically, some argue that the idea places the burden of stopping rape on the victims rather than the perpetrators. But the reality, according to Ehler, is that "[n]obody can make you safe except you." Given that South Africa has the highest per capita rate of rape of any country in the world, at a reported 119 per 100,000 people (which translates to around 1.7 million women raped each year), she may have a compelling argument.
[/q]




__________________

Irvine511 is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 04:38 PM   #2
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 41,228
Local Time: 02:43 AM
__________________

BVS is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 05:14 PM   #3
Blue Crack Addict
 
Moonlit_Angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo...
Posts: 20,183
Local Time: 03:43 AM
Yeouch. Interesting way of trying to deal with this...wonder if it will work as well as people think/hope? And I'm also curious if they'll market this elsewhere in the world, too?

Angela
Moonlit_Angel is online now  
Old 11-08-2007, 05:29 PM   #4
ONE
love, blood, life
 
A_Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 12,518
Local Time: 06:43 PM
Sad that it is needed, sure as hell not sad for any rapist that gets it.

But would be sad for any male victim of deliberate and malicious vagina dentata.
A_Wanderer is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 05:33 PM   #5
ONE
love, blood, life
 
indra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,689
Local Time: 04:43 AM
Quote:
the device does no lasting damage
Damn.

indra is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 05:35 PM   #6
War Child
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 519
Local Time: 03:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by A_Wanderer


But would be sad for any male victim of deliberate and malicious vagina dentata.
The male nightmare come true...
kimby is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 05:37 PM   #7
Refugee
 
Sue DeNym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Beautiful Pacific Northwest!
Posts: 1,608
Local Time: 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by A_Wanderer
Sad that it is needed, sure as hell not sad for any rapist that gets it.
Agreed. It's a shame that it's gone this far, but if these jerks insist on attacking women, it's only fair that the women attack back.

There is a way around it, though, and if the rapist finds out a woman is wearing one, he might get really vicious with her.
Sue DeNym is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 06:39 PM   #8
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
coemgen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Black and White Town
Posts: 3,962
Local Time: 03:43 AM
It hurt just reading that.
coemgen is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 06:43 PM   #9
Blue Crack Addict
 
U2democrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: England by way of 'Murica.
Posts: 22,142
Local Time: 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by A_Wanderer
Sad that it is needed, sure as hell not sad for any rapist that gets it.
I agree.
U2democrat is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 06:52 PM   #10
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 10:43 AM
Re: a condom with teeth

Quote:
Originally posted by Irvine511
South Africa has the highest per capita rate of rape of any country in the world, at a reported 119 per 100,000 people (which translates to around 1.7 million women raped each year)
What a sad statistic! Is there no law and order there whatsoever???
Zoots is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 07:16 PM   #11
Blue Crack Distributor
 
LarryMullen's POPAngel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: I'll be up with the sun, I'm not coming down...
Posts: 53,698
Local Time: 03:43 AM
I remember reading about this a while ago.

It is sad that something like this is needed, but if it deters a potential rapist (which, sadly, I hate to say it probably won't) then so be it. Give the women as much ammunition as they need to protect themselves.
LarryMullen's POPAngel is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 07:20 PM   #12
ONE
love, blood, life
 
indra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,689
Local Time: 04:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Sue DeNym
There is a way around it, though, and if the rapist finds out a woman is wearing one, he might get really vicious with her.
I imagine it's kind of a last ditch thing -- you do everything you can to avoid becoming a victim in the first place, and you do your best to fight like hell if attacked, but if all else fails and you do get raped at least this way the bastard gets hurt too.
indra is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 08:31 PM   #13
Blue Crack Addict
 
kafrun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Upside-down
Posts: 19,644
Local Time: 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by LarryMullen's_POPAngel
Give the women as much ammunition as they need to protect themselves.
Absolutely.
kafrun is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 09:33 PM   #14
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 32,356
Local Time: 04:43 AM
when do women put this in, though? like, if she works late nights and has to take public transportation or walk home alone or when? i can't imagine it would be part of one's morning routine?
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 09:48 PM   #15
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 41,228
Local Time: 02:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Irvine511
i can't imagine it would be part of one's morning routine?
In Africa, sadly I don't think time of day matters. The stats are sickening. But the problem is, how does this stop anyone from beating or shooting the girl for retaliation?
BVS is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 09:53 PM   #16
ONE
love, blood, life
 
A_Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 12,518
Local Time: 06:43 PM
The calculus must be that is of secondary concern to fleeing.
A_Wanderer is offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 11:31 PM   #17
Forum Moderator
 
yolland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,471
Local Time: 09:43 AM
After reading a little more about this device, I don't think its main goal is to inflict pain--rather to A) protect the woman from diseases and pregnancy and B) force the rapist to go to a hospital, where he can then be turned over to the police. The hooks apparently don't actually sink in until the man withdraws, but once in supposedly can't be removed without a doctor's help. Obviously it would also cause pain--which, it's hoped, would give the woman an opportunity to safely flee--but it doesn't per se "prevent" rape.

But rape being a crime of power and sadism to begin with, I'm not sure the potential benefits of this device outweigh the risks. In a situation where the man has a gun, or a gang rape situation, I'd worry this would only increase the chances of the woman getting beaten or shot in 'retaliation'. It also sounds like it would probably be quite easy for a rapist to avail himself of any one of various common objects that could be inserted first as a 'safety,' thus enabling him to easily remove the device (which, again, I'd worry might then incline him to be even more vicious with the assault). And as Sue indicated, the device would be of no help with anal rape.

Still, the mere idea of it being readily available and fairly inexpensive (though you can only wear each one up to 24 hours, which might make it too expensive for some women) presumably has some deterrent effect all by itself. I'm just not sure whether whatever potential it has to make these situations even more dangerous is 'made up for' by that.
__________________
yolland [at] interference.com


μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης
yolland is offline  
Old 11-09-2007, 07:26 AM   #18
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The American Resistance
Posts: 4,754
Local Time: 02:43 AM
Is there a Ned Beatty model for men?
INDY500 is offline  
Old 11-11-2007, 02:00 PM   #19
you are what you is
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 22,044
Local Time: 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar
But the problem is, how does this stop anyone from beating or shooting the girl for retaliation?
excellent question
__________________
“Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.”
~Frank Zappa
Salome is offline  
Old 11-11-2007, 03:58 PM   #20
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Canadiens1131's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 10,363
Local Time: 04:43 AM
This story's fairly old news.

Anyhow, I think it's meant to work more as a deterrent, at least to repeat offenders. If a rapist has a run-in with one of those, I doubt they would want to push their luck again if the thing is well-marketed and very public.
__________________

Canadiens1131 is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×