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Ok, its my turn to state my opinion and make you all pissed off at me.
__________________In terms of merchandising and media coverage, its way out of control. TV stations are doing this to get ratings and give Americans what they want to see. But I admit I am offended that those of you who call yourselves Americans try to attach yourselves to the tragedy the way you are in this discussion. Yes this was an attack on America but it was also an attack on New York. All these so-called Americans who thought NYC was smelly and dirty and filled with rude people before Sept. 11 turned around and said everyone was a New Yorker and they loved this city. And yet when the chips were down, they sent us a check, turned off the TV and became isolationist and closed minded instead of trying to understand why people hate us. I feel some of you are doing that in this thread-- the whole they attacked America-- and that lack of understanding is putting all of us in danger again. I'm really sorry you all had to watch this tragedy on TV but I was there in person. I was two blocks away from the south tower when it collapsed. I still know what those buildings tasted like, what that cloud of debris looked like, what it felt like to think I was going to die. And yet the last time I was down at Ground Zero [two weeks ago] there were a bunch of amusement park tourists smiling with a big gapping hole behind them as if the trade center was still a tourist attraction. I'm glad you all feel the pain of what happened that day but don't try and act like because you're an American you're a martyr. You got to watch it on TV and forget about it until the anniversary. I wish I could have done that. |
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Not being kicked in teh head on a daily basis..is lucky....what's your point?
tragedy is tragedy...life is life..no matter where you live. and I dont' think you understand that some of us knew people in those towers |
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OK..let's look at teh other side of YOUR argument
if 3,000 africans died in a manner similar to sept 11th should I feel glad because tehy were liberated of a life of suffering???? certainly not....though what's happening in Africa is terrible it does not make sept 11th any less tragic and for you to assign degrees of value to human life based on the affluence and freedoms they are afforded is wrong. |
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I also believe that it's an issue of America wanted pity for their punishment. What do I mean by punishment? Well, I guess I'm refering to the rape, murder and betrayal of the U.S. government and everything it stands for. I also refer to the hundreds of millions of Native Americans who never got an annual remembrance for their ancestors deathes that occured year after year for over 500 years and counting.
We should forget this is anything special and move on with our lives. We should start caring for the living. The dying in Africa, the ignorant in Asia, the souless in America. These are much more prudent in our current times. Amen.... ![]() |
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Get your head out of your ass and try thinking before you speak, RS.
This thread is a fucking joke if I ever saw one. |
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I also wanted to say that I'm terribly sorry for all the type-os that appear in my posts. Sorry, sorry, sorry
![]() The tragedy that occured last year wasn't a happy moment for anyone with a heart. Innocent people were killed. I would have rather seen the terrorist at least attempt to direct their actions toward the people who were responsible for their anger (No, I'm not hinting at anyone in particular). At least THEN, it would make sense, but killing innocent janitors, salesmen, and firefighters (who demand respect in any culture), was sad and brought many tears to my eye (I only have one eye do to a boating accident). Let's just look at the big picture. This is drop in the bucket when we consider the crimes against humanity that have plague our nations and others since the beginning of time. Didn't we have closure last year? If not, why NOT!?!?! This is a great discussion. Elvis and mods: thanks for leaving it open. ![]() ![]() |
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this is touchy everyone, let's make sure that we aren't making personal shots and that we be sure to read posts carefully before we respond.
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I'm going to direct my attn to more productive matters....I suggest otehrs do the same....I'd liek to see this thread sink like a rock
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That said, we're not saying that 9/11 is more of a tragedy than what happens on the streets. What makes 9/11 stand out, if it's not obvious enough already, is that hundreds of people died ALL AT ONCE. No, think about it. If one friend of yours died, you'd naturally be sad and very upset. But if, say, five of your friends died all at once in a freak incident, then it'd be more upsetting. It's the freak-ish part about it that makes 9/11 stand out. Do you understand, Ravenstar? foray |
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it's a tragedy for american people , ALL of them , 3000 of innocent lives , terrible terrorist attack . there should be a memorial , shoud be a minute of silence every year ( maybe ) , but people must forget it in some way , to let it go , leave it behind ( except for military inteligence and some other folks ) , our children must live and be happy and they must not to question themselves everyday ( like today ) who is ben Laden ??? for example , little children in kindrgarden or school talking stuff like " Let's kill terrorists , sadam hussein is bad etc etc etc " it's not right . it's sick . and it must be healed .
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Thank you, foray. I hope RavenStar takes the time to read your post.
Thank you as well to the many people who have replied to this thread. This has become in a matter of hours one of the best threads I've seen in FYM in a while--and I mean that. |
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Pax, it sounds like you're taking sides. Is that part of a mod's job?
__________________I just ask because it sounds like your claiming that this thread is somewhat better than others, mostly due to the fact that it's supporting the most popular opinion of the people who responded. Threads that have little or no conflicting debate are in my opinion boring and in need of overhaul ![]() But seriously, is a mod supposed to take sides on moral, ethical, and political issues? It just seems like that sort of thing would come back to haunt you, if you happened to ban someone that held a drastically different opinion. Cheers, Dan ![]() |
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