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* or some other industry, pro business, anti-government interference, number of scientists did |
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MaxFisher,
I'm with you on this one. Here's the Petition Project Site: http://www.petitionproject.org/ |
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Wow, that website makes this whole thing pretty laughable.
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Secondly, if most of these "scientists" are not in the field of climatology or similar scientific disciplines, that's obviously a problem. A "scientist" is not a blanket expert on all disciplines, including ones that they did not study. (Of course, good luck telling "Dr. Laura" that a Ph.D in physiology--the study of mechanical, biological, and biochemical functions of living organisms--does not mean she's qualified to be a psychologist, but that's another story.) Finally, as I've stated repeatedly in FYM, a good number of conservatives have rightly realized that the solutions to most leftist concerns about global warming are also solutions to right-wing concerns about national security. That is, a dramatic shift away from oil consumption means that we emit much less carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, solving many concerns about global warming, and it means that we also are far less reliant on unsavory OPEC nations, many of whom have little regard for Western values of freedom, human rights and democracy, and some of whom are (suspected) state sponsors of terrorism. Do we not think that the money we spend every day on oil won't find its way back to the same enemies we are trying to fight against? We're fooling ourselves to think that drilling in ANWR will somehow make us self-sufficient in oil. By every realistic estimate, it will take 20 years for a single drop of oil to ever make it out of there for our consumption, even if all legislative hurdles against oil exploration and drilling there were solved today. By that time, we could have moved onto a different source of fuel. So rather than wasting time with the usual partisan bickering, let's move forward and kill potentially two concerns simultaneously. |
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accurate as this is, it still won't allow us to put troops into harm's way in order to scare up some votes. |
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The petition website says that only 9000 of those "scientists" have PhDs. They seem to be counting anyone as a scientist who claims to have even a bachelor's degree in science.
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Well, it's nice we have some discussion going on.
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there are just too many people living on this planet
well, given the available natural resources there are since i do think even those 32,000 scientists would agree with this the question doesn't seem to be whether we are fucking up this planet but whether actually anything can be done
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Why is it that as I am approaching 40 I am finding that I agree with Deep more and more. HAHA
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because I have had the benefit of reading thoughtful posters, like yourself
and also, I making just a 'little' more effort in explaining my opinions |
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I'm not one of the 32,000 scientists but al gore should give back his nobel peace prize. Thanks al for alarming all the liberals into believing that global warming is real. Actually...
Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh | The Australian the planet is cooling. check it out |
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How is that good news? Reduced crop yields, longer transport times, floods and frosts; global cooling is no paradise.
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How is a geophysicist and astronaut being published in a major Australian paper not legitimate? I would give more credit than Al Gore, and a lost less than a peer reviewed article, or a series of rebuttal's to an article.
__________________Your stock standard assumption is presumably that he is some liberty university hack, that really doesn't seem to be the case. Philip K. Chapman |
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