3 questions. Just trying to understand.

U2fan42 · 09-20-2002, 11:03 PM

1. Why are so many people against Israel? I'll admit that they have committed quite a few unethical acts, but if you were a country who's neighbors have sworn that they will not rest until all of your people are dead, wouldn't you also go to extremes?

2. Why do people feel that the US should not go after Saddam? He is trying to acquire nuclear weapons. Do you honestly believe that if given the opportunity, he would not use them on Israel and the US? The guy is a ruthless tyrant. I don't think that Bush is the greatest president, but Saddam has to go.

3. Why do people like Clinton? He's a con-artist!!!

I'm not one of these ultra-conservative psychopaths. I try to be as moderate and reasonable as possible, but I just feel that liberals can be so naive. Someone please help me understand.

Lilly · 09-20-2002, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by U2fan42

I'm not one of these ultra-conservative psychopaths. I try to be as moderate and reasonable as possible, but I just feel that liberals can be so naive. Someone please help me understand.

no. this is not acceptable. no more generalizations on anyone's part. PEOPLE are naive, be they liberal, centrist, conservative. so while i'm going to let this thread go on i want to stress this:

NO MORE GENERALIZATIONS WILL BE MADE IN THIS THREAD. IF ANYTHING COMES OUT THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED IMMEDIATELY.

no more.

lilly.

The Wanderer · 09-20-2002, 11:56 PM

people make generalizations about everything in life, unless they know everything, so if you don't want generalizations, then shut your cake holes

famous rungi · 09-21-2002, 12:05 AM

Lately I've been pondering the following words from the Bible and wondering if it could have any any value at all in our current situation.

If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Looks like the Bible is a very naive book, eh.

foray

The Wanderer · 09-21-2002, 12:07 AM

aren't those sentiments contradicted in other parts of the Bible though?

famous rungi · 09-21-2002, 12:09 AM

Old Testament: an eye for an eye
New Testament: turn the other cheek
Jesus Christ changed things.

My time is running out, I'll have to leave you with that. Gnite.

foray

Lilly · 09-21-2002, 12:11 AM

we don't want arguing which seems to generally stem from the sweeping generalizations that are made on this board.

no more "every liberal is naive" "conservatives are closed-minded."

no more.

lilly.

The Wanderer · 09-21-2002, 12:15 AM

promise?

The Wanderer · 09-21-2002, 12:17 AM

so are the Old and New Testaments obsolete?

pinkfloyd · 09-21-2002, 12:21 AM

I'll try to be friendly and correctemundo .........

1) HATE

2) MONEY

3) Theatre

Set The Controls To The Heart of the sun

set the controls to the heart of the sun

cloudimani · 09-21-2002, 03:10 AM

I'm not against Israel in general, or for any reasons of anti-semetism.

However I feel that their actions are ridiculous. I've said it before and I'll say it again, suicide bombings are terrible evil things, but the Israeli response is always disproportionate: a bus is blown up by a suicide bomber - Israel brings out the gunsips and bombs the hell out of illegitimate targets (mostly around Arafat).

Everyone sees that the only solution to the problems between Israel and Palestine is the creation of a Palestinian homeland, so why dont they just accept it already and save some lives on both sides.

CannibalisticArtist · 09-21-2002, 05:41 AM

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09-20-2002, 11:03 PM	#1
U2fan42 The Fly Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago,IL,USA Posts: 221 Local Time: 06:50 AM	3 questions. Just trying to understand. 1. Why are so many people against Israel? I'll admit that they have committed quite a few unethical acts, but if you were a country who's neighbors have sworn that they will not rest until all of your people are dead, wouldn't you also go to extremes? 2. Why do people feel that the US should not go after Saddam? He is trying to acquire nuclear weapons. Do you honestly believe that if given the opportunity, he would not use them on Israel and the US? The guy is a ruthless tyrant. I don't think that Bush is the greatest president, but Saddam has to go. 3. Why do people like Clinton? He's a con-artist!!! I'm not one of these ultra-conservative psychopaths. I try to be as moderate and reasonable as possible, but I just feel that liberals can be so naive. Someone please help me understand. __________________

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09-20-2002, 11:56 PM	#3
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 01:50 AM	people make generalizations about everything in life, unless they know everything, so if you don't want generalizations, then shut your cake holes

09-21-2002, 12:05 AM	#4
famous rungi Acrobat Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: foray's kitchen drawer Posts: 431 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Lately I've been pondering the following words from the Bible and wondering if it could have any any value at all in our current situation. If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Looks like the Bible is a very naive book, eh. foray

09-21-2002, 12:07 AM	#5
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 01:50 AM	aren't those sentiments contradicted in other parts of the Bible though?

09-21-2002, 12:09 AM	#6
famous rungi Acrobat Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: foray's kitchen drawer Posts: 431 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Old Testament: an eye for an eye New Testament: turn the other cheek Jesus Christ changed things. My time is running out, I'll have to leave you with that. Gnite. foray

09-21-2002, 12:11 AM	#7
Lilly Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: back and to the left Posts: 8,523 Local Time: 12:50 AM	we don't want arguing which seems to generally stem from the sweeping generalizations that are made on this board. no more "every liberal is naive" "conservatives are closed-minded." no more. lilly.

09-21-2002, 12:15 AM	#8
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 01:50 AM	promise?

09-21-2002, 12:17 AM	#9
The Wanderer Kid A Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holy Roman Empire Posts: 5,271 Local Time: 01:50 AM	so are the Old and New Testaments obsolete?

09-21-2002, 12:21 AM	#10
pinkfloyd Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SILVER LINE Posts: 901 Local Time: 01:50 AM	I'll try to be friendly and correctemundo ......... 1) HATE 2) MONEY 3) Theatre Set The Controls To The Heart of the sun set the controls to the heart of the sun

09-21-2002, 03:10 AM	#11
cloudimani Acrobat Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 483 Local Time: 06:50 AM	I'm not against Israel in general, or for any reasons of anti-semetism. However I feel that their actions are ridiculous. I've said it before and I'll say it again, suicide bombings are terrible evil things, but the Israeli response is always disproportionate: a bus is blown up by a suicide bomber - Israel brings out the gunsips and bombs the hell out of illegitimate targets (mostly around Arafat). Everyone sees that the only solution to the problems between Israel and Palestine is the creation of a Palestinian homeland, so why dont they just accept it already and save some lives on both sides.