2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIV: May This Entertainment Never End

[cobl04]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

Yeah, I'll bite the bullet.

This isn't that shocking, and the majority of people are pretending to be outraged.

If you didn't already know for a virtual fact that Trump would say something like this...I've no idea what you've been doing.

If you think that the average person has not heard similar things said, usually in obvious jest (though the argument can be made that he's obviously not deathly serious here - just being an asshole to be an asshole), you've been able to insulate yourself from assholes much better than I have.

Breaking news: careless, narcissistic asshole makes careless, narcissistic asshole jokes to friend privately.


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How fucking thick are you? You realise these "jokes" are directly responsible for women being sexually assaulted? A joke about being able to go up to women and grab their pussy normalises the act.

Jesus christ. Climate change isn't the biggest threat to our existence. It's men. Men are horrible.

Originally Posted by bobsaget77

I can't justify voting for this guy and being okay with this behavior. Disgusting and his "apology" video was disgraceful. Man up and take some personal responsibility! Tells me that his man has no leadership. This country is desperate for leadership!
This goes a lot deeper than just a "locker room language" cop out. Because if he's being lumped in with the type of guys who talk like that in a locker room, he's a real POS.
Hopefully he drops out and let's someone like Romney or Kasich take the nomination.

This is a quick turnaround...

[mikal]

Two people that I've almost blocked on Facebook for their pro-Trump posts have now publicly said they won't vote on Election Day. Obviously just two examples in my bubble but makes me wonder if the true effect from the video will be that his voter turnout will decrease, but not necessarily in Clinton's favor (which still helps her)

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by cobl04

On another note, this just shows how warped the American idea of "morality" really is.

Mexicans are rapists? Fine.
Ban all Muslims? Fine.
Deport people who the 'American Dream' told them they'd look after? Fine.
Talk about shooting people? Fine.
Encourage violence? Fine.
Whip up fascist sympathy? Fine.

Say a rude word? NOT IN AMERICA.

This isn't because Trump said pussy.

This is because Trump alluded to committing sexual assault, and that he's done it before.

I agree that Trump should have been disqualified a year ago, and you can thank the GOP for that, but this isn't because he said a bad word.

[LuckyNumber7]

Yeah I suppose at first listen I really didn't think of it that way.

[martha]

Originally Posted by mikal

Two people that I've almost blocked on Facebook for their pro-Trump posts have now publicly said they won't vote on Election Day. Obviously just two examples in my bubble but makes me wonder if the true effect from the video will be that his voter turnout will decrease, but not necessarily in Clinton's favor (which still helps her)

More Republicans not voting is fine with me. Hopefully this reverberates down local races and we get a Congress which will get stuff done this time.


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[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by cobl04

How fucking thick are you? You realise these "jokes" are directly responsible for women being sexually assaulted? A joke about being able to go up to women and grab their pussy normalises the act.



Jesus christ. Climate change isn't the biggest threat to our existence. It's men. Men are horrible.







This is a quick turnaround...

I'm just gonna sit back and laugh at the fact that your reading comprehension skills haven't equipped you with the ability to understand I'm communicating almost precisely the same idea as you were in the post immediately prior to the quoted post.

But hey man, you keep seeking out those virtue points. I'm amused


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[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by cobl04

On another note, this just shows how warped the American idea of "morality" really is.

Mexicans are rapists? Fine.
Ban all Muslims? Fine.
Deport people who the 'American Dream' told them they'd look after? Fine.
Talk about shooting people? Fine.
Encourage violence? Fine.
Whip up fascist sympathy? Fine.

Say a rude word? NOT IN AMERICA.

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

Breaking news: careless, narcissistic asshole makes careless, narcissistic asshole jokes to friend privately.

Originally Posted by cobl04

How fucking thick are you? You realise these "jokes" are directly responsible for women being sexually assaulted? A joke about being able to go up to women and grab their pussy normalises the act.

Please tell me you were trying to make a joke by imitating America's moral police that you just finished mocking.

I don't want to live in a world where you think this exchange makes sense.



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[cobl04]

I do not understand the point you are trying to make.

[BEAL]

The only thing Trump supporters (in my social media bubble) are talking about is how Trump said Pussy

While Bill Clinton is LITERALLY a rapist, and Hillary shamed the victims.

To my knowledge, Bill was never convicted of any crime, and there's been plenty of allegations brought against him.

He's had affairs with Monica, and Gennifer Flowers. He settled out of court with Paula Jones which some could take as admission of guilt.

But no rape.

I'm sorry but if this is your only fucking comeback to your candidates repulsiveness, then I feel you belong in the basket of deplorables.

How badly do you want Your side to win?

I don't think I can stomach the debates tonight. Especially if Trump goes all in on the Bill Clinton Rape Machine.

I know Hillary is being prepped for it, and she's not going to take his bait. But how embarrassing for a country that it could go down this route. For the whole world to watch.

We have so many issues in this country and all we focus on is marriage affairs


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[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by cobl04

I do not understand the point you are trying to make.

I'm feeling charitable, though disappointed.

This is the 25th least shocking thing Trump said. You seem to have understood that last page, but lost that knowledge on this one.

This is someone who came out and immediately called war prisoners losers.

Who immediately concluded that a woman asking him tough questions must be on her period.

Who decided imitating a disabled guy was the best way to make fun of him.

What single moment in history would've given anyone the smallest doubt that there were private conversations like this?

I saw the headline and was only surprised that it leaked, not that it happened.

Breaking news: trump says something trump-like for the 1000th time.

You are literally making this same point when you bemoan the strange state of American morality, where no one is shocked or outraged at the myriad of crazy shit trump has already said, but are instead completely incensed because - and let's keep it 100, do not believe the "I just walk up and kiss 'em!" part is what's keeping this alive - he said pussy.

I have no idea how you can make the point that it's hilarious that *this* is where everyone draws the line with Trump, and then get pissy at me for communicating ostensibly the same idea


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[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by BEAL

The only thing Trump supporters (in my social media bubble) are talking about is how Trump said Pussy

While Bill Clinton is LITERALLY a rapist, and Hillary shamed the victims.

To my knowledge, Bill was never convicted of any crime, and there's been plenty of allegations brought against him.

He's had affairs with Monica, and Gennifer Flowers. He settled out of court with Paula Jones which some could take as admission of guilt.

But no rape.

I'm sorry but if this is your only fucking comeback to your candidates repulsiveness, then I feel you belong in the basket of deplorables.

How badly do you want Your side to win?

I don't think I can stomach the debates tonight. Especially if Trump goes all in on the Bill Clinton Rape Machine.

I know Hillary is being prepped for it, and she's not going to take his bait. But how embarrassing for a country that it could go down this route. For the whole world to watch.

We have so many issues in this country and all we focus on is marriage affairs


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I actually agree with you that Bill Clinton's rape allegations aren't really related to this campaign, other than potentially HRC's alleged attempts to silence supposed victims.

"I know he did, BUT WHAT ABOU--" is a really annoying tactic to use when trying to defend your candidate. It presupposes that the other person is only attacking your candidate out of partisan concerns, and that he doesn't *actually* care about the issue he's bringing up.

That all said - and perhaps this doesn't belong in this thread because it's a pretty far digression - man...I am pretty persuaded by the evidence that Bill most likely raped Paula Jones and/or Juanita Broadderick. And this is out of no antipathy to Bill Clinton - he's probably one of my top 3 favorite modern presidents.


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[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

This isn't because Trump said pussy.

This is because Trump alluded to committing sexual assault, and that he's done it before.

I agree that Trump should have been disqualified a year ago, and you can thank the GOP for that, but this isn't because he said a bad word.

Right.
That Trump has uttered the word "pussy" in the past shouldn't surprise nor really bother anyone, likely Hillary has said the word at some point in the past just not on tape and not in regards to assaulting someone.
The language is not the issue, the accompanying actions are.

On a positive note for Orange Donnie, after being whitewashed on Nov 8, he can find work as a spokesman for Tic Tacs.
"Before I sexually assault an unsuspecting victim, I always pop a couple of Tic Tacs, you should too."

[cobl04]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

I'm feeling charitable, though disappointed.

This is the 25th least shocking thing Trump said. You seem to have understood that last page, but lost that knowledge on this one.

This is someone who came out and immediately called war prisoners losers.

Who immediately concluded that a woman asking him tough questions must be on her period.

Who decided imitating a disabled guy was the best way to make fun of him.

What single moment in history would've given anyone the smallest doubt that there were private conversations like this?

I saw the headline and was only surprised that it leaked, not that it happened.

Breaking news: trump says something trump-like for the 1000th time.

You are literally making this same point when you bemoan the strange state of American morality, where no one is shocked or outraged at the myriad of crazy shit trump has already said, but are instead completely incensed because - and let's keep it 100, do not believe the "I just walk up and kiss 'em!" part is what's keeping this alive - he said pussy.

I have no idea how you can make the point that it's hilarious that *this* is where everyone draws the line with Trump, and then get pissy at me for communicating ostensibly the same idea


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????

I was making an unrelated comment. You actually defended Trump.

That's the difference. His comments were horrific, asinine, indefensible.

But you dismissed the comments as "ahh it's just narcissistic Trump making a joke. Over-outrage!!!"

We may have made the same point but we could not possibly be further apart in our intentions from making said point.

[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by cobl04

????



I was making an unrelated comment. You actually defended Trump.



That's the difference. His comments were horrific, asinine, indefensible.



But you dismissed the comments as "ahh it's just narcissistic Trump making a joke. Over-outrage!!!"



We may have made the same point but we could not possibly be further apart in our intentions from making said point.

You're smart enough to understand the difference between defending Trump and pointing out that people are taking a shitty, asshole remark and blowing it up further once they noticed that it sticks. This is not defending trump. This is just noticing that even in here, the difference in tone from when everyone thought this wouldn't stick to now is jarring.

Quite frankly, if this somehow resulted in Trump dropping out, I would be overjoyed - I'd love to see an election with HRC against quite frankly anyone else, it wouldn't be anywhere near this big of a lead for her.

Do better. Read better. Be better.


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[BVS]

Wait?! People actually think this is about the word 'pussy'?




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[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by BVS

Wait?! People actually think this is about the word 'pussy'?




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No. People just don't immediately realize he's talking about something he's already done.

A passive listen makes it seem like he's just talking himself up "in front of the guys" like a typical sexist male.

[david]

[LuckyNumber7]

Does everyone remember when Trump started the Heil Drumpf hand pledge?

It never should've had to come to this.

[DaveC]

i recommend everyone tune in to watch the blue jays sweep the rangers tonight rather than watch a grown man desperately hurl rape accusations about her spouse at a woman applying for a job. you know that's all he's coming in with tonight.

[martha]

She will demolish him again.

I plan to watch old 70s TV shows on DVD.