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Old 10-20-2016, 11:46 PM   #941
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I am against Clinton's pro abortion stance. This women's right to choose is the biggest crock that has somehow become acceptable by all the lefties out there. I am therefore doing a Bono in reverse and am urging all Americans on this forum to vote Trump and stop murder.

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I am against Clinton's pro abortion stance. This women's right to choose is the biggest crock that has somehow become acceptable by all the lefties out there. I am therefore doing a Bono in reverse and am urging all Americans on this forum to vote Trump and stop murder.

It always confuses me when people who are pro-life are against candidates who are more likely to lower the abortion rate. I'm not sure how Donald Trump is pro-life and how his policies would actually lower the abortion rate. The rate has actually been declining for over a decade, and if I were making policies to reduce this even more I would look at the root causes and try to create policy around those. Some of those have been addressed by the Obama administration such as free and easy access to birth control. Other things that influence the abortion rate are policies involving families and women including paid leave (maternal and paternal) and support for moms and families after the child is born.

Clinton seems to have a much more comprehensive set of policies in place that will actually help lower abortion rates while still keeping it legal. Trump doesn't seem to have given it much thought, other than saying he's against it (though not very convincingly), and mentioning a child care credit as a possible policy.
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And completely misunderstanding what actually goes on in many cases.


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Trump may claim he's pro-life to court a base he still manages to alienate, but let's be honest: that guy has paid for his share of abortions over the years.
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Trump may claim he's pro-life to court a base he still manages to alienate, but let's be honest: that guy has paid for his share of abortions over the years.
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I am against Clinton's pro abortion stance. This women's right to choose is the biggest crock that has somehow become acceptable by all the lefties out there. I am therefore doing a Bono in reverse and am urging all Americans on this forum to vote Trump and stop murder.
Oh this is wonderful - please explain how you came to this conclusion.

If you can manage to do that without being extremely sexist, ignorant of facts, condescending and with compassion, I'll change my mind.
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THere was some charity dinner where Trump and Hillary were laughing at smiling with each other?!?!

I do have to say Trump's joke about Michelle Obama and Melania was actually hilarious.
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Oh this is wonderful - please explain how you came to this conclusion.

If you can manage to do that without being extremely sexist, ignorant of facts, condescending and with compassion, I'll change my mind.
Being pro life is now being sexist? If I had my way, every woman who has consensual sex and then gets pregnant but chooses to have an abortion, will be sentenced to life imprisonment. It's no different to murder. Unless you can prove to me that it's not killing and a life is not being extinguished, then I don't see how you can be supportive of abortion either.
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If I had my way, every woman who has consensual sex and the gets pregnant but chooses to have an abortion, will be sentenced to life imprisonment.
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Go away, troll.

Piss off you politically correct tool. Is abortion murder? If the answer is yes, then how is my suggestion offensive in any way?

Oh, I forgot, you're a kiwi....the land of political correctness and raging feminists.
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If I had my way, every woman who has consensual sex and then gets pregnant but chooses to have an abortion, will be sentenced to life imprisonment.
How would you practically implement that? Strap them to a lie detector to establish 'consent'?
What sentences do you have in mind for men who threaten to break all ties with a woman if they refuse abortion? And how would you practically implement that?
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Being pro life is now being sexist? If I had my way, every woman who has consensual sex and then gets pregnant but chooses to have an abortion, will be sentenced to life imprisonment. It's no different to murder. Unless you can prove to me that it's not killing and a life is not being extinguished, then I don't see how you can be supportive of abortion either.

So you support improved access to contraception for women and men? The services Planned Parenthood provides for low income women, right?


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Idiot trolls aside it's fucked that there are people out there who really think like that.
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Proud of it. The raging feminism anyway. Anybody who uses the term "politically correct" has automatically lost whatever discussion of which they are a part.
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Anybody who uses the term "politically correct" has automatically lost whatever discussion of which they are a part.

My God. So true.


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Idiot trolls aside it's fucked that there are people out there who really think like that.

And who will support Trump because they've convinced themselves he thinks like that.


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Piss off you politically correct tool. Is abortion murder? If the answer is yes, then how is my suggestion offensive in any way?

Oh, I forgot, you're a kiwi....the land of political correctness and raging feminists.

I'm guessing you're drunk and trolling, but honestly your other posts are starting to make sense.


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Proud of it. The raging feminism anyway. Anybody who uses the term "politically correct" has automatically lost whatever discussion of which they are a part.
Obviously you know very little about abortion. Go and educate yourself.

Feminism is something to be proud of? Honestly, people like you are what's wrong with this world.

It's no wonder a lot of young kiwi men I know are looking offshore for their brides. It's almost impossible to find a ladylike female in NZ these days. God help us all if the rest of the world starts to follow your country's lead.
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