2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIV: May This Entertainment Never End - Page 43

bono_212 · 10-18-2016, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

I've got to keep refreshing this thread to see all the good stuff before it's gone.

Seriously, if this censoring continues, I'm out.

Interference has always had a no delete policy. To change it after all these years really puts me off.

**Diemen** · 10-18-2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

I've got to keep refreshing this thread to see all the good stuff before it's gone.

Are we here to have a discussion or gawk at train wrecks?

Axver · 10-18-2016, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bono_212

Seriously, if this censoring continues, I'm out.

Interference has always had a no delete policy. To change it after all these years really puts me off.

I'm actually not too unhappy with it. We did have a problem of people simply ignoring (or, if I'm generous, sometimes accidentally overlooking) mod instructions to drop a topic, especially when the previous last remark on the subject was particularly inflammatory. That does seem to have decreased a bit.

LemonMelon · 10-18-2016, 11:51 PM

I wasn't even complaining per se, just stating a fact.

Kieran McConville · 10-18-2016, 11:56 PM

Personally I think the little 'lock' tool is as good as any if a thread is really that out of hand (and it's not just people seriously pissed off at each other because they have massive differences of opinion).

On sites generally, disappearing posts mostly serves to render chunks of a thread almost incomprehensible. That said, it's not as bad in this forum layout as it can be on threaded blog discussions where people are in the habit of prefacing their rants with '@ post no. 4334' instead of quoting.

So yeah. Good times.

cobl04 · 10-19-2016, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bono_212

Seriously, if this censoring continues, I'm out.

Interference has always had a no delete policy. To change it after all these years really puts me off.

I'm with you on this one, but there's only 10 of us left anyway

bono_212 · 10-19-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Axver

I'm actually not too unhappy with it. We did have a problem of people simply ignoring (or, if I'm generous, sometimes accidentally overlooking) mod instructions to drop a topic, especially when the previous last remark on the subject was particularly inflammatory. That does seem to have decreased a bit.

Then those people need to be banned and we need to move on, that's my opinion. If you're not following the rules, that's on you. To have chunks of conversation simply disappear is just kinda befuddling and little creepy, when it's in a political thread.

Axver · 10-19-2016, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bono_212

Then those people need to be banned and we need to move on, that's my opinion. If you're not following the rules, that's on you. To have chunks of conversation simply disappear is just kinda befuddling and little creepy, when it's in a political thread.

Yeah, I get this. I'd prefer it if things weren't deleted. But I guess it's do we delete a few posts that don't contribute a whole lot vs (to use Cobbler's estimate) ban one of our ten remaining active posters. Practically any regular here has said something rather inflammatory at some stage.

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 10-19-2016, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

Are we here to have a discussion or gawk at train wrecks?

... both?

**Diemen** · 10-19-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bono_212

Then those people need to be banned and we need to move on, that's my opinion. If you're not following the rules, that's on you. To have chunks of conversation simply disappear is just kinda befuddling and little creepy, when it's in a political thread.

They're not really chunks of the conversation though, they're tangents going into personal beefs.

anitram · 10-19-2016, 09:12 AM

I have to agree with Ashley, it's pretty jarring and uninviting to see posts deleted. I also think it sets up potential problems down the road of what was deleted/why and the perception people have of moderating. Banning + 24 hr locking of threads for a "cool down" seems reasonable but this thread is probably not the right place to discuss the approach.

Back to the topic, I love how CNN is running commercials that their "live coverage" begins at 4 pm EST, all the while every single one of their morning shows is being broadcast from outside the debate stage. Can't make this up if you tried.

**Diemen** · 10-19-2016, 09:37 AM

Hey all,

I appreciate the input on the moderation changes. Rather than sidetrack this thread further with it - I've opened up the sticky thread for discussion there.

LuckyNumber7 · 10-19-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by anitram

Back to the topic, I love how CNN is running commercials that their "live coverage" begins at 4 pm EST, all the while every single one of their morning shows is being broadcast from outside the debate stage. Can't make this up if you tried.

They are desperate. Look at their most recent Ellie Goulding branding:

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Hewson · 10-19-2016, 11:27 AM

"What's on the menu at Obama's last dinner"

Perhaps its a joint state dinner with Thailand featuring fried Fufu.

RockNRollDawgie · 10-19-2016, 11:36 AM

I'm going to watch the debates tonight just to see what the sniffing cokehead Trump will do.
Probably the same old act. Incoherent ramblings, attacking Hillary on emails, sniffing, more
ramblings, more sniffing, and pacing back and forth following Hillary around the stage.

BEAL · 10-19-2016, 11:43 AM

LOCK HER UP!!! SNIFF SNIFF

BENGAZHI MOM....MURDERER!!!!

POST OFFICE!!!

Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

Dreadsox · 10-19-2016, 12:08 PM

I am extremely disappointed with this whole election. It is a disgrace that we no longer have a media that presents the news in an unbiased manner. It is a disgrace that Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. It is a disgrace that Hillary is the Democratic nominee. It is disappointing that I have more accurate news from #Anonymous than from our own media. It is a disgrace that in a year with all of the issues - immigration, common core, police and black lives in peril, debt, poverty, the insanely high prices of college, individual debt, housing affordability........... This is what we are left with ...... TOPICS THAT GIVE THE MEDIA RATINGS...... nothing more........ I am thankful to be on the down slope of my life, because this place is going straight down the drain like the Democratic Mobile dumped it yesterday.

AS for FYM..... how many people with conservative ideas left..... and why? Maybe the forum is reflective of society, nobody really enjoys the debate and everyone believes they have the answer so why engage. Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Newt Gignrich were successful because despite their differences, they were able to find common ground. Maybe its more fun to hang with people who are of like mind?

Anyway - I am voting Gary Johnson. I don't agree with everything he stands for, but he does seem to have some integrity. Bill Weld was a good Republican in Massachusetts, but the national party ran him out for not being conservative enough. Anyways.....back into my box.

BEAL · 10-19-2016, 12:12 PM

These conservatives that you mention had a chance to stand up to Trump, to others that have hijacked the party, and few, if any did nothing.

The blame goes all around, not just the media. We click on the bait, give ratings to people who wouldn't have ever gotten coverage to begin with.

This is our bed, and we made it.

Where do we go from here?

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**Headache in a Suitcase** · 10-19-2016, 12:15 PM

Straight to hell

trojanchick99 · 10-19-2016, 12:21 PM

I'll be skipping the debate again. This time, my excuse is:

10-19-2016, 12:21 PM	#860
trojanchick99 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Feliz, CA (between Hollywood and Downtown LA) Posts: 8,352 Local Time: 10:34 PM	I'll be skipping the debate again. This time, my excuse is: __________________

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10-18-2016, 11:51 PM	#844
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,796 Local Time: 10:34 PM	I wasn't even complaining per se, just stating a fact.

10-18-2016, 11:56 PM	#845
Kieran McConville ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hi, Violet Posts: 10,253 Local Time: 03:34 PM	Personally I think the little 'lock' tool is as good as any if a thread is really that out of hand (and it's not just people seriously pissed off at each other because they have massive differences of opinion). On sites generally, disappearing posts mostly serves to render chunks of a thread almost incomprehensible. That said, it's not as bad in this forum layout as it can be on threaded blog discussions where people are in the habit of prefacing their rants with '@ post no. 4334' instead of quoting. So yeah. Good times.

10-19-2016, 09:12 AM	#851
anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 01:34 AM	I have to agree with Ashley, it's pretty jarring and uninviting to see posts deleted. I also think it sets up potential problems down the road of what was deleted/why and the perception people have of moderating. Banning + 24 hr locking of threads for a "cool down" seems reasonable but this thread is probably not the right place to discuss the approach. Back to the topic, I love how CNN is running commercials that their "live coverage" begins at 4 pm EST, all the while every single one of their morning shows is being broadcast from outside the debate stage. Can't make this up if you tried.

10-19-2016, 09:37 AM	#852
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,690 Local Time: 12:34 AM	Hey all, I appreciate the input on the moderation changes. Rather than sidetrack this thread further with it - I've opened up the sticky thread for discussion there.

10-19-2016, 11:27 AM	#854
Hewson Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Your own private Idaho Posts: 34,381 Local Time: 01:34 AM	"What's on the menu at Obama's last dinner" Perhaps its a joint state dinner with Thailand featuring fried Fufu.

10-19-2016, 11:36 AM	#855
RockNRollDawgie Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,544 Local Time: 12:34 AM	I'm going to watch the debates tonight just to see what the sniffing cokehead Trump will do. Probably the same old act. Incoherent ramblings, attacking Hillary on emails, sniffing, more ramblings, more sniffing, and pacing back and forth following Hillary around the stage.

10-19-2016, 11:43 AM	#856
BEAL Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,266 Local Time: 05:34 AM	LOCK HER UP!!! SNIFF SNIFF BENGAZHI MOM....MURDERER!!!! POST OFFICE!!! Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

10-19-2016, 12:08 PM	#857
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 12:34 AM	I am extremely disappointed with this whole election. It is a disgrace that we no longer have a media that presents the news in an unbiased manner. It is a disgrace that Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. It is a disgrace that Hillary is the Democratic nominee. It is disappointing that I have more accurate news from #Anonymous than from our own media. It is a disgrace that in a year with all of the issues - immigration, common core, police and black lives in peril, debt, poverty, the insanely high prices of college, individual debt, housing affordability........... This is what we are left with ...... TOPICS THAT GIVE THE MEDIA RATINGS...... nothing more........ I am thankful to be on the down slope of my life, because this place is going straight down the drain like the Democratic Mobile dumped it yesterday. AS for FYM..... how many people with conservative ideas left..... and why? Maybe the forum is reflective of society, nobody really enjoys the debate and everyone believes they have the answer so why engage. Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Newt Gignrich were successful because despite their differences, they were able to find common ground. Maybe its more fun to hang with people who are of like mind? Anyway - I am voting Gary Johnson. I don't agree with everything he stands for, but he does seem to have some integrity. Bill Weld was a good Republican in Massachusetts, but the national party ran him out for not being conservative enough. Anyways.....back into my box.

10-19-2016, 12:12 PM	#858
BEAL Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,266 Local Time: 05:34 AM	These conservatives that you mention had a chance to stand up to Trump, to others that have hijacked the party, and few, if any did nothing. The blame goes all around, not just the media. We click on the bait, give ratings to people who wouldn't have ever gotten coverage to begin with. This is our bed, and we made it. Where do we go from here? Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

10-19-2016, 12:15 PM	#859
Headache in a Suitcase Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 74,583 Local Time: 01:34 AM	Straight to hell