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Old 10-04-2016, 01:08 AM   #741
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:23 AM   #742
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Haha that's good.

This is extremely long but very clever and the parodies of Trump and Sanders by two comedians I don't know is very good, even better than Baldwin and McKinnon.



For a shorter clip, this is utterly brilliant:

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*gets ready to duck tomatoes* I think the latest PTSD thing is quite a beat-up if you read what he actually said.
True. But the thing that surprises me (still) is how unprepared he seems to be to run for president of the USA. He should know by now that everything a presidential candidate (or even just a politician) says is weighed on a scale like gold. So don't try to stumble in such a way when talking about subjects. Especially as he already has a history with negative comments regarding veterans (his comments about senator McCain being an ex-POW).

Same unpreparedness applies to his tax returns. If you know you want to run for president, get your taxes in order. You can't change your past returns, but he should have gotten at least 2014 and 2015 in order. Just to release those two and get rid of the constant hammering on your tax requests. But no, he probably hadn't thought about that.
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Completely agreed.

Seriously y'all, watch the above clip I posted. It's SO good.
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It's not unpreparedness. He doesn't want to be president. He never did. The only real question is whether he will win despite this state of affairs (my instinct still says probably not). In either case, it's game over for the Republican Party as presently constituted.
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Protests by Veteran's groups scheduled outside Trump Tower today...

Because Trump is the hero the GOP deserves, but not the one it needs
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Yeah, on reflection, this isn't worth the fuss.

On the other hand, he has not earned reasonable discussion. It's no surprise that people, me included, assume the worst with this guy.

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While the way he phrased it isn't as direct as the headlines suggest. Think about this. Say you were a vet with PTSD, or the thousands of families with children or husbands or wives with PTSD. And this draft-dodger comes out and says, You all see a lot of bad things, but if you're strong enough you can handle it.
Isn't your first thought - this guy is saying its my fault for suffering from PTSD because i'm too weak to handle it?

Trump uses this tactic all the time. He phrases it just around the edges enough where he can claim he didn't mean it, but it's pretty clear.
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Roger Stone, serial liar and fellow conspiracy theory loon with Alex Jones, has been hinting that wikileaks is going to drop something big this week. Granted, this is the man who swears that Clinton was wearing an earpiece in the debate because she was just too prepared, you know?

Though there are also rumors that the "big" wikileaks scoop has been postponed since it would probably be overshadowed this week by Trump's taxes.
Yes, Assange keeps "postponing" the big reveal. The latest, he is citing "security concerns" which of course is just a play to the delusional that Clinton of course has threatened to have him killed. Clinton being a mass murderer is now settled theory in these circles.

I'm sure he has more to release, but isn't this all DNC stuff?? Kinda past the expiration date to have much punch now.

Anyway, at this point its very unclear as to whether he has anything at all, or if he thinks by teasing it out over months that it just lets people imagine the worst and leaves it at that...
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Wikileaks is selling the same Snake Oil as Trump.

Unsurprising they have the same customers.
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Circumstance. They do not typically have the same customers.
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It's not unpreparedness. He doesn't want to be president. He never did. The only real question is whether he will win despite this state of affairs (my instinct still says probably not). In either case, it's game over for the Republican Party as presently constituted.
So true. I've said this from the primaries. He wants to "win" NOT be president. At all. I believe it terrifies him.
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Clinton being a mass murderer is now settled theory in these circles.



She's probably the most notorious serial killer in the world m,and gotten away with one of the biggest mass killing in world history, but she's just a dumb bitch.


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Cool chart from 538 on pre and post debate polling of swing states.

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I'll never understand how someone can watch these two debate and actually have their opinions change.

I can't fathom watching the debate and being like "well, that Trump sure was convincing!"
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While the way he phrased it isn't as direct as the headlines suggest. Think about this. Say you were a vet with PTSD, or the thousands of families with children or husbands or wives with PTSD. And this draft-dodger comes out and says, You all see a lot of bad things, but if you're strong enough you can handle it.
Isn't your first thought - this guy is saying its my fault for suffering from PTSD because i'm too weak to handle it?

Trump uses this tactic all the time. He phrases it just around the edges enough where he can claim he didn't mean it, but it's pretty clear.
I can't agree with this, or any interpretation that says he was attempting to hurt anyone. What he said is true, and is a sad state if affairs.

I still despise the guy, but I'm not going to rake him over the goals for shoddy journalism and click bait headlines. It lets him climb up on his cross, and I'm not going to help him attach himself to it.
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I'll never understand how someone can watch these two debate and actually have their opinions change.

I can't fathom watching the debate and being like "well, that Trump sure was convincing!"
I like that Ohio absolutely doubled down after it, even.
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Big reveal! October surprise!

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when Assange finally appeared, looking a little like Max Headroom against his green screen backdrop, he didn’t have much to reveal. And so, Trump lovers and truth enthusiasts everywhere were told something with the power to change the course of the U.S. presidential election, and indeed, the very fate of the American project itself, forever: Books published by Wikileaks are now 40 percent off!
Wow! I didn't know they published books! This changes EVERYTHING!
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I can't agree with this, or any interpretation that says he was attempting to hurt anyone. What he said is true, and is a sad state if affairs.

I still despise the guy, but I'm not going to rake him over the goals for shoddy journalism and click bait headlines. It lets him climb up on his cross, and I'm not going to help him attach himself to it.
I understand where you're coming from, but it gets to a deeper point of his entire personality and thought process.
Every rally, the debate, he gives no specifics except, we're going to get tough folks. I'm going to do it with strength. I'm strong on this or that...
Hillary is weak and doesn't have stamina, blah blah... Putin is a strong leader, Kim Jong Un is admirable because of how he "took control"

While i don't think he conciously was trying to say what he ended up implying, I really don't think you can argue that the flip side of his statement does in effect mean "weak" people are the ones that get PTSD because they can't handle it.
It just shows a horrible misunderstanding of PTSD and mental trauma in general.
I agree this one should not be that big of a deal, and it won't be because he'll say something more stupid in a few hours and the media will move on.
But i do think that it solidifies his bizarre mentality and over-compensation.
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what a troll. seriously. the people that fall for this crap ...

WikiLeaks Trolls Trump World, Delivers Nothing on Hillary - The Daily Beast
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Cool, cool, cool.

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