2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIII

[Diemen]

(Several posts deleted. Let's move on from personal feuds, please.)

[BigMacPhisto]

And regarding sexism being thrown out at every opportunity by Clinton's supporters over people on the left refusing to get in line, it really is just too damn convenient. I've been called a sexist myself in here by otherwise level-minded people when I haven't even once made an actual comment going down that path, nor would I ever. Of course, anything that can be twisted into that manner by people not willing to actually hear someone's point can fall under that banner (such as some users totally not getting my point about the Bill Clinton fidelity issue).

Almost everything the left has criticized Clinton about, such as the paid speeches, are things they have criticized those involved with politics for years and decades. You can't suddenly just call someone a sexist for making the same argument they've made their entire political lives against everyone.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

And regarding sexism being thrown out at every opportunity by Clinton's supporters over people on the left refusing to get in line, it really is just too damn convenient. I've been called a sexist myself in here by otherwise level-minded people when I haven't even once made an actual comment going down that path, nor would I ever. Of course, anything that can be twisted into that manner by people not willing to actually hear someone's point can fall under that banner (such as some users totally not getting my point about the Bill Clinton fidelity issue).

Almost everything the left has criticized Clinton about, such as the paid speeches, are things they have criticized those involved with politics for years and decades. You can't suddenly just call someone a sexist for making the same argument they've made their entire political lives against everyone.

No one has EVER EVER EVER called you sexist for not "getting in line". That is just a convenient excuse you use so you don't have to ever truly address your issues.


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[corianderstem]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

BVS - Saw that video. Some have gone even deeper to point out at 5:52 she laughs and seems to have a herky jerk mini-seizure.

Please tell me this is that awesome little shimmy moment.

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

I've been called a sexist myself in here by otherwise level-minded people when I haven't even once made an actual comment going down that path, nor would I ever.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

I've been called a sexist myself in here by otherwise level-minded people when I haven't even once made an actual comment going down that path, nor would I ever.

Question: what makes a comment sexist?

[BigMacPhisto]

I'd say a comment that denigrates another person in a way that is specifically related to their gender.

But I have been called out at random at times, even someone like Axver talked about casual sexism and I was like, huh? I even looked back in my recent posts at that time to see if anything could even be remotely construed that way but not no avail.

But whatever. I've also been called a racist here despite agreeing that virtually all of black crime can be tied back to structural racism, but god forbid you try and argue that there is a social element to the greater abundance of crime within the black community or point out that it's a small group within that community being responsible for most of these issues. Half the time, it feels like the left has a group of people with rabbit ears on just waiting to pounce on anything they can possibly construe as racist, perhaps because it gives them a little thrill. It's the same sort of anti-intellectual safe-space crap that now means Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld refuse to set foot on a college campus.


Honestly, my laundry list of complaints with Hillary Clinton are the exact same sort of issues I had with John Kerry and she shares many stances with Barack Obama who I informed many liberal voters of his to temper their expectations of before he was elected. I can understand people feeling there's some hypocrisy if young people were supporting Obama and not Clinton and how there can be some sexism at play, but the label can't just be thrown out unless something is blatantly obvious in its sexism. I was honestly more proactive in my own personal life for getting people to vote for Nader instead of John Kerry than I ever have been for Hillary Clinton, even volunteering for that campaign. She has a host of godawful stances and past decision making that I could never get behind, but none of my qualms have ever been personal.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Question: what makes a comment sexist?

When it comes from the mouth of someone who is sexy. Duh.

[DaveC]

oh shoot, i'm in trouble then.

[Mrs. Garrison]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

When it comes from the mouth of someone who is sexy. Duh.

Originally Posted by DaveC

oh shoot, i'm in trouble then.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by DaveC

oh shoot, i'm in trouble then.

Most comments I read from you are incredibly sexist

[DaveC]

made in mexico

[Axver]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Also, Gary Johnson can't name a single world leader.

I genuinely don't understand how this is possible - for anyone, let alone somebody actively involved in politics. How can he not even name Putin?

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

I'd say a comment that denigrates another person in a way that is specifically related to their gender.

But I have been called out at random at times, even someone like Axver talked about casual sexism and I was like, huh? I even looked back in my recent posts at that time to see if anything could even be remotely construed that way but not no avail.

Yes, because you have suggested that women, as a collective group, will make uninformed decisions purely because they are women. Sorry but that sort of lazy stereotype is sexist.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by Axver

Yes, because you have suggested that women, as a collective group, will make uninformed decisions purely because they are women. Sorry but that sort of lazy stereotype is sexist.

Uneducated black women and white women over 50 (I believe), to be specific.

BMP, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Uneducated black women and white women over 50 (I believe), to be specific.

BMP, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

And any woman that likes Adele, oh and women who vote for Clinton only vote because she's female not on policy.


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[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Axver

I genuinely don't understand how this is possible - for anyone, let alone somebody actively involved in politics. How can he not even name Putin?

He was asked who his favorite was. And only after he started to get really flustered did Matthews, I believe, ask him to just name any world leader.

I'll say two things. One, this was a "gotcha" question. Arguably malicious, if you watch Matthews in the video. But two, you're not qualified to be president if you don't have a presidential wherewithal. If you don't know who you're working with, that's a problem. This is an issue with Trump (and it's terrible to be compared with Donald Trump). You can't just "wing it" to be president and "surround yourself with the best." Sure, technically it's not a one person job, but this is the president of 300 million people. You need the most qualified.

I think Johnson has some good ideas. So in some sense it's a shame that he was being head hunted / exposed. But not really. Well, it would be nice if candidates like Trump were also cornered and pestered and pressured with simple questions he can't answer. Trump is just really good at moderating his own conversation.

But yeah -- anyways, if you want to be president, you have to do your homework. Not just be smart.

[LuckyNumber7]

https://www.facebook.com/thedailysho...4565451876800/

Sports team mentality! Go team!

[BVS]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call that a "gotcha" question for a POTUS candidate.


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[DaveC]

i just saw the video, it's even worse than i imagined. how the hell can you seize up like that on such a simple question when you're running for president?

[BEAL]

Gary said he'd give up weed if elected.

I think he should have gave it up before the election.




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