2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIII - Page 21

Moonlit_Angel · 09-26-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

It's just hard not to stand up and point to everything he said and scream "DO YOU NOT SEE THIS???" to his supporters.

Guh.

I understand this feeling veeeeeeeeeeeeeery much. Anyone supporting him really should take a long, hard look in the mirror.

corianderstem · 09-26-2016, 09:43 PM

Welp, that's over. Back to my own little happy place.

BigMacPhisto · 09-26-2016, 09:44 PM

Looks like Trump will win the debate polling but it's not by a huge margin given the polls I'm seeing.

PhilsFan · 09-26-2016, 09:45 PM

Imagine voting for Donald Trump.

BigMacPhisto · 09-26-2016, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by prbiker15

For a moment I thought he was going to snub Lester.

Not like he would have beef with him. Lester was an awful moderator, most of the time just chiming in to tell a candidate they'd run out of time.

BigMacPhisto · 09-26-2016, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilsFan

Imagine voting for Donald Trump.

Yeah, but imagining enough people voting for him to elect him at this point isn't even remotely far fetched. It honestly feels like a coin flip at this point.

corianderstem · 09-26-2016, 09:55 PM

One more post for the night:

Irvine511 · 09-26-2016, 09:59 PM

Is he going to do another debate?

Hewson · 09-26-2016, 09:59 PM

What I learned:

A. Hillary's book is available to buy at bookstores or perhaps an airport near me.

2. Donald has property everywhere.

Third. We're fucked as a nation regardless of the outcome Nov 8

PhilsFan · 09-26-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Yeah, but imagining enough people voting for him to elect him at this point isn't even remotely far fetched. It honestly feels like a coin flip at this point.

That's fine, but we can take one night to just shame every Trump voter. Including the ones on this forum. It's fucking shameful.

Irvine511 · 09-26-2016, 10:03 PM

No. We're not fucked either way.

We have an established, rational politician who deeply understands policy and how government works, as well as how the world works. You may not agree with her, but she is not a threat to the continued existence of any of those things.

Vlad n U 2 · 09-26-2016, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hewson

Third. We're fucked as a nation regardless of the outcome Nov 8

The main thing that can be taken out of all of this. Felt similar (although on a lesser scale) in regards to recent Australian elections.

**Diemen** · 09-26-2016, 10:29 PM

martha · 09-26-2016, 10:34 PM

In 20 years, how are they going to explain to their children that they genuinely thought he was the right person to be President?

deep · 09-26-2016, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

Hey, surprise! In 2002, Donald Trump said he supported invading Iraq.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...8OB#.gnDor3PNx

Edit: although the quote is "I guess so," which does kind of line up with his comments now.

Thanks for at least including this.
This forum will show 100% I was aginst the Iraq war from the start of it. Hanz Blix UN Weapons inspector found no evidence of WMDs. In 2002 if some one asked me about Iraq before inspections I may have said the same thing he did. But I can say I was always aginst the war when the war was launched

BigMacPhisto · 09-26-2016, 10:43 PM

Well, the election is now over. She beat him by a ludicrously high margin in the debate polling and there's no reason the future debates won't help her even more with the general public.

Only way Trump mounts a comeback is if Assange's leak does a lot to muddy the waters.

BigMacPhisto · 09-26-2016, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deep

Thanks for at least including this.
This forum will show 100% I was aginst the Iraq war from the start of it. Hanz Blix UN Weapons inspector found no evidence of WMDs. In 2002 if some one asked me about Iraq before inspections I may have said the same thing he did. But I can say I was always aginst the war when the war was launched

Same here. Day One. And I never believed there were WMDs. But I'm a liberal, so that shouldn't be surprising. Nobody who supported that travesty can call themselves a Progressive. Fact.

martha · 09-26-2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Well, the election is now over. She beat him by a ludicrously high margin in the debate polling and there's no reason the future debates won't help her even more with the general public.

.

My God I hope so. I've been obsessing about the cabinet appointments he'd make, especially the Department of the Interior, which oversees the NPS, which handles my beloved Grand Canyon. I can't even think about it without getting worked up.

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Axver · 09-26-2016, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by martha

In 20 years, how are they going to explain to their children that they genuinely thought he was the right person to be President?

Yes, Godwin's Law bla bla bla, but I'm not even joking that this is going to be like trying to explain a vote for the Nazi Party in 1933.

People who think voting for somebody who either espouses or enables fascism, racism, xenophobia, sexism, misogyny, and white supremacy, and who shows complete scorn towards any notion of the truth, deserves neither respect nor engagement. At this point my attitude to Trump supporters is pure condescension and dismissal. Seriously, every single one is a pathetic excuse for a human being. How on earth did the US produce a nation chock-full of trolls? What an embarrassment. The fact this will affect the country I live in, and all others in some way, makes it all the harder to sit idly by and hold my tongue. I watched just a couple of minutes of this debate and Trump is a genuinely repugnant, awful person. It was unbearable, especially as I can't exactly throw back shot after shot while I'm at work, so I turned it off to spare my blood pressure.

I can't even believe we have Trump supporters on this forum. Espousing Trumpist views probably would have got you banned a decade ago, and now this vileness is part of mainstream political discourse?

Seriously, if you support Trump, I hope to god I never meet you. I prefer to avoid fascists and their fellow travellers, thanks.

Moonlit_Angel · 09-26-2016, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by martha

In 20 years, how are they going to explain to their children that they genuinely thought he was the right person to be President?

I think about that, too. This is going to be taught in history classes and teachers will have to figure out how to explain this insanity. It's a truly surreal thing to imagine.

Already I'm seeing people on other sites bitching that Lester Holt was biased towards Clinton because he didn't ask her about the e-mails (actually, he did) or Benghazi or her foundation

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09-26-2016, 09:43 PM	#402
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 03:21 PM	Welp, that's over. Back to my own little happy place. __________________

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Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 34,213 Local Time: 06:21 PM	2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIII No. We're not fucked either way. We have an established, rational politician who deeply understands policy and how government works, as well as how the world works. You may not agree with her, but she is not a threat to the continued existence of any of those things.

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09-26-2016, 09:44 PM	#403
BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,351 Local Time: 05:21 PM	Looks like Trump will win the debate polling but it's not by a huge margin given the polls I'm seeing.

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PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 06:21 PM	Imagine voting for Donald Trump.

09-26-2016, 09:55 PM	#407
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 03:21 PM	One more post for the night:

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Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 34,213 Local Time: 06:21 PM	Is he going to do another debate?

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Hewson Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Your own private Idaho Posts: 34,010 Local Time: 06:21 PM	What I learned: A. Hillary's book is available to buy at bookstores or perhaps an airport near me. 2. Donald has property everywhere. Third. We're fucked as a nation regardless of the outcome Nov 8

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martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,556 Local Time: 03:21 PM	In 20 years, how are they going to explain to their children that they genuinely thought he was the right person to be President?

09-26-2016, 10:43 PM	#416
BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,351 Local Time: 05:21 PM	Well, the election is now over. She beat him by a ludicrously high margin in the debate polling and there's no reason the future debates won't help her even more with the general public. Only way Trump mounts a comeback is if Assange's leak does a lot to muddy the waters.