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Old 09-17-2016, 04:34 PM   #181
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...bile.html?_r=0

According to the New York Times, 47% of people believe electing Clinton is a safe choice, while 51% believe it to be a risky choice.

You may not think it, but people certainly can think it. And do. In rather large numbers.


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And I'd say the exact same thing to their faces.

It's ridiculous.
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Remember it's about FEELINGS, not logic, not facts

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Incompetence is dangerous, W proved that. Hillary 2016 has proven to be incompetent.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:35 PM   #184
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You keep saying this as though it is new to this election cycle. It's not. Obama's first campaign was built primarily on the concept of "hope," which is an emotional appeal at its core. Democrats do this kind of thing as well, just with a different angle.
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You keep saying this as though it is new to this election cycle. It's not. Obama's first campaign was built primarily on the concept of "hope," which is an emotional appeal at its core. Democrats do this kind of thing as well, just with a different angle.

Yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a group of people that could be staring at the facts first hand, but they feel like it's the minority's fault, or they feel like climate change isn't possible, or they just feel like Obama is a Muslim trying to bring sharia law.

Of course emotional appeal has been used since the beginning, but that's not what we're talking about here.


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Old 09-17-2016, 10:50 PM   #186
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I think everyone here is speaking a little too definitively about where this election is headed. We haven't even had any presidential or vice presidential debates. At this point in the election cycle both McCain and Romney were tied with Obama. Everyone was falling all over themselves to declare Romney the next President after Obama's dismal first debate.

I think it's a little premature to assume that current trends will only continue on in Trump's favor until November.
True. People who say they'll be voting third party often change their minds for the other two parties as the election draws near.
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Old 09-18-2016, 02:43 AM   #187
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This is the key

......as a percent of eligible voters, turn out was: 2000, 54.2%; in 2004 60.4%; 2008 62.3%; and 2012 57.5%. These were the same figures as given by the Center for the Study of the American Electorate.
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Election Update: Democrats Should Panic … If The Polls Still Look Like This In A Week | FiveThirtyEight

Nate Silver, may be right that Demcrats should be concerned, but this guy is way, way over rated.
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I'm confused, isn't FiveThirtyEight a sports website?
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Nate Silver, may be right that Demcrats should be concerned, but this guy is way, way over rated.

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Every four years I have a lot to think about as I decide who to vote for for president.

Now, I have to have this dumped on me.

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I've run my last campaign.

But the things that I've fought for my entire career -- tolerance, democracy, justice, the progress we've made -- they're all on the ballot in 50 days.

I'll see it as a personal insult to my legacy and the work we've done together if we fail to step up and make sure that Hillary takes my place in January.

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I would be pissed off if my boss replaced me with a baboon too.
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I'd vote for an actual baboon sooner than Trump.
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I think if a baboon were to run as a 3rd party candidate, he'd have a shot.
In fact if Obama hadn't ordered Harambe killed, polls show in a 3 way race nationally he'd win:
Harambe: 78%
Hillary; 7%
Trump: 6%
Undecided: 9%
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Bono on CBS this morning talking about how dangerous he believes Trump to be to the "idea of America".
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I'd take it over the orangutan in the R seat.


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Bono on CBS this morning talking about how dangerous he believes Trump to be to the "idea of America".
Bono talking about the 'idea of America' is close to one of my least favourite things about Bono.
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Bono on CBS this morning talking about how dangerous he believes Trump to be to the "idea of America".
Sneak preview of new IE Tour speech:

Trump is not a candidate
He's an ideologue
Still being racist, still being boorish
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Bono talking about the 'idea of America' is close to one of my least favourite things about Bono.
Why is that? It's sad that it takes people from other countries to actually let us know what the idea of America is.

Yesterday seeing Trump telling a roaring crowd that the suspect of the NY city bombs shouldn't get a lawyer to represent him, shouldn't get treated at our hospitals in a humane way, is exactly why we need people who actually realize what our country is about, and why it is great right now.
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