2016 US Presidential Election Thread - VIII - Page 14

deep · 05-02-2016, 01:24 PM

in this four person race to become the nominee of major parties

who is the most legitimate presumed nominee? the person that has won the highest percentage of delagates in primaries??

Delegates (2,382 Needed to Win)
Hillary- 1645 - 69% of needed to win
Bernie - 1318 - 55% of needed to win

Delegates (1,237 Needed to Win)
Trump-996 - 81% of needed to win
Cruz-565 - 45 % of needed to win

at least with the GOP we have legit delagates won counting to the nomination.
in the Democrats race, Bernie is not that far behind, but with the phony super delegates added in, one would thing he has not been competitive and Hillary is slaying it. She clearly is not, and praising her while denigrating Bernie and his supporters as not having a chance when they have done incredible with the money, insiders, power brokers, corporations all aligned against them is a huge story.

Hewson · 05-02-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC

my game is ro-sham-bo. i always win because i always go first as reigning champion.

But I'm putting my money on Iron Balls McGinty in your title defense next Saturday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itv0SoMFZ7E

BVS · 05-02-2016, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by deep

Delegates (1,237 Needed to Win)
Trump-996 - 81% of needed to win
Cruz-565 - 45 % of needed to win

Well when it's Mussolini vs Satan, of course Mussolini get the higher percentage.

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Originally Posted by deep

She clearly is not, and praising her while denigrating Bernie and his supporters as not having a chance when they have done incredible with the money, insiders, power brokers, corporations all aligned against them is a huge story.

Yes he has. I'm not sure anyone is denying that.

deep · 05-02-2016, 02:40 PM

Carly falls for Cruz or was she pulled down into hell by the Lucifer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6g6Emv3Oc0

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BEAL · 05-02-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deep

in this four person race to become the nominee of major parties

who is the most legitimate presumed nominee? the person that has won the highest percentage of delagates in primaries??

Delegates (2,382 Needed to Win)
Hillary- 1645 - 69% of needed to win
Bernie - 1318 - 55% of needed to win

Delegates (1,237 Needed to Win)
Trump-996 - 81% of needed to win
Cruz-565 - 45 % of needed to win

at least with the GOP we have legit delagates won counting to the nomination.
in the Democrats race, Bernie is not that far behind, but with the phony super delegates added in, one would thing he has not been competitive and Hillary is slaying it. She clearly is not, and praising her while denigrating Bernie and his supporters as not having a chance when they have done incredible with the money, insiders, power brokers, corporations all aligned against them is a huge story.

IMO, the only reason this race has been "close" is because Hillary has allowed it to be. She has been extremely civil towards Bernie, more so than I think she was with Obama.

She has taken a higher road with the politics, where can you imagine what Trump would do with Bernie? There's been no socialism/communism scare tactics from Hillary. No mentioning his voting record in the senate. No real personal smear tactics against him.

Why? Because she NEEDS some of his supporters come the general election.

While I'm not that thrilled with Hillary, she is the candidate I'm going to vote for. I started out well behind Bernie, because I would like to see a broader social program implemented into the US. He does talk about the issues I care about (and Hillary can too), but the more research, the more I learned about Bernie.....I consider him a bit of a fraud. He has shown no record of implementing his ideas in congress, and no sign of a compromise to try and maybe get SOMETHING of his passed. I get the impression he's more of a lone wolf, and always wanting to be against the establishment...

So yeah, he's had a good run. He's brought up issues that normally wouldn't really see the light of day. He's also created a fandom that is one of the most annoying in recent memory, and has attacked the party that allowed him his platform.

It's like watching a non racist Trump

Irvine511 · 05-02-2016, 05:30 PM

Also, the hits the right would slam Bernie with won't work in a Dem primary with an increasingly liberal base. Her hits on Bernie have been very, very careful so they don't backfire.

In the general election, I think he'd be in real trouble.

Also, caucus victories seem to be the worst possible indicator of general election success.

anitram · 05-02-2016, 06:28 PM

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Also, caucus victories seem to be the worst possible indicator of general election success.

Didn't Obama beat Hillary on the backs of caucus victories and then (obviously) did incredibly well in the general?

Oregoropa · 05-02-2016, 06:38 PM

Bernie wants a say in the party platform. A decent speaking slot. He feels he owes it to his legion of followers. He shouldn't leave because of 3 letters . . . F-B-I

BVS · 05-02-2016, 06:57 PM

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He shouldn't leave because of 3 letters . . . F-B-I

Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlights, people

Don't stop believin'
Hold on
Streetlights, people

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DaveC · 05-02-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Bernie wants a say in the party platform. A decent speaking slot. He feels he owes it to his legion of followers. He shouldn't leave because of 3 letters . . . F-B-I

why do you seem to think every politician is always a cunthair away from federal charges?

deep · 05-02-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram

Didn't Obama beat Hillary on the backs of caucus victories and then (obviously) did incredibly well in the general?

Yes
But Irvine seems to be having selective memories this time around.

Oregoropa · 05-02-2016, 07:10 PM

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Streetlights, people

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Haha. It doesn't even have to be HRC to cause a kerfluffle. Huma or Chelsea could be indicted. The whole narrative has yet to play itself out. Comey and scores of others could resign in protest over Lynch blocking any requests. On the next episode of 'As the Election Turns'

DaveC · 05-02-2016, 07:15 PM

and while we're at it let's dig up nixon's skeleton and indict him, too

BVS · 05-02-2016, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Haha. It doesn't even have to be HRC to cause a kerfluffle. Huma or Chelsea could be indicted. The whole narrative has yet to play itself out. Comey and scores of others could resign in protest over Lynch blocking any requests. On the next episode of 'As the Election Turns'

Is this what Breitbart is telling you now? That Chelsea is getting indicated?

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LuckyNumber7 · 05-02-2016, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa

He shouldn't leave because of 3 letters . . . F-B-I

Female body investigators? What are they going to find on him?

Oregoropa · 05-02-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Is this what Breitbart is telling you now? That Chelsea is getting indicated?

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I've heard it in the wind of the right-side airwaves blogosphere. Chances are they will likely go for Huma. I own predictit.org penny stocks in Biden and Warren being the D-Nominee. I expect it to be HRC all the way. But when the speculation hits at some point and those numbers bump up, I'll sell off at at 300% profit, before things settle back down.

deep · 05-02-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC

and while we're at it let's dig up nixon's skeleton and indict him, too

Nixon got a blanket pardon from Ford
It would not surprise me if Obama gives one to crooked Hillary

Irvine511 · 05-02-2016, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anitram

Didn't Obama beat Hillary on the backs of caucus victories and then (obviously) did incredibly well in the general?

She was closer throughout 2008 than Sanders has ever been or will ever be.

Sanders might win the general. But at this time in 2008 no one had ever heard of Jeremiah Wright. Or William Ayers.

Irvine511 · 05-02-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deep

Yes
But Irvine seems to be having selective memories this time around.

Right. Because Sanders built an early lead in the caucus states and once again Hillary is playing catch up because history is repeating itself.

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Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,359 Local Time: 09:55 PM	Also, the hits the right would slam Bernie with won't work in a Dem primary with an increasingly liberal base. Her hits on Bernie have been very, very careful so they don't backfire. In the general election, I think he'd be in real trouble. Also, caucus victories seem to be the worst possible indicator of general election success.

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Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 08:55 PM	Bernie wants a say in the party platform. A decent speaking slot. He feels he owes it to his legion of followers. He shouldn't leave because of 3 letters . . . F-B-I

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DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 22,957 Local Time: 09:55 PM	and while we're at it let's dig up nixon's skeleton and indict him, too