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Old 03-30-2016, 02:53 PM   #81
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No, no, Donald. You as president is punishment enough for everyone.

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Fuck you. Seriously.


Seriously, can't we send this guy to another planet or something? Please? Just...anything that will get him the fuck out of here?
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:55 PM   #82
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if he's getting the much coverage for doing insane things, Hillary and Bernie should do so. (I'm just kidding, but it feels like they might need to do it to get bit more exposure).
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Another true WTF moment.
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i think it's a swipe at Susan Sarandon?
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I don't know why presidential candidates themselves have to care about endorsements from celebrities.
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i think it's a swipe at Susan Sarandon?
I don't understand what she/her campaign thinks she is going to gain, though, other than making the campaign feel better about its direction?
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Will be interesting to watch the Libertarian party the rest of this year.

Gary Johnson Talks About Running For President | The Daily Caller

Only 3rd party on all 50 state ballots.

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As disaffected Republicans muse about the possibility of backing a third-party candidate instead of Donald Trump in a general election, former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, seeking the Libertarian Party nomination for president, says he sees a big opportunity.

“If this isn’t an opportunity for the Libertarian nominee — and I hope to be the Libertarian nominee — there will never be an opportunity, in my opinion,” Johnson said in an interview with several reporters at The Daily Caller’s newsroom this week.

Johnson briefly ran for president as a Republican in 2012 before leaving the party to become the Libertarian Party’s nominee, winning more than one million votes against Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

He’s now focused on winning the nomination again at the party’s Memorial Day weekend convention in Orlando and suing the Presidential Debate Commission so his party’s nominee will be included in the general election debates.

“There’s no way that a third party wins the presidency without being in the presidential debates,” Johnson said.

Asked what he thought about libertarian-leaning Rand Paul ’s poor performance in the Republican primaries this year, Johnson said Paul is libertarian on economics but not on social issues.

“What’s disheartening is he’s got this libertarian label,” Johnson said, “which is applicable to half of what he had to say, but then on the social side, he’s a Republican. At the end of the day, he’s a Republican.”

Johnson argues his views are in line with most Americans. “I really believe that the majority of people in this country are libertarians, that we’re classically liberal at the end of the day, we’re fiscally conservative…but also we’re socially liberal. Who cares how you live your life as long as it doesn’t adversely affect mine?”

Johnson pointed out how he and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders have similar views on foreign policy.

“Sanders, I think, is who I’m in line with when it comes to foreign policy,” Johnson said.

Johnson said he recently took a test online that tells you what candidate you agree with most “and I sided with myself 90 percent of the time, but then in second place, I sided with Bernie Sanders 73 percent of the time, which to me just spoke volumes of why he’s so popular.”

“Obviously, we’re 180 degrees when it comes to economics, but when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to crony capitalism, when it comes to Europe, a woman’s right to choose, marijuana, to me it spoke volumes as to why he is doing as well as he is,” Johnson said.

Asked if he has spoken with some of the conservatives who say they are interested in supporting a third-party candidate if Trump becomes the Republican nominee, Johnson said: “We’ve got a few of these meetings here, I’ve got a few of those meetings in the next few days.”

He also quipped: “I kind of don’t even know who they are and I’m kind of wondering why we’re even doing it, being they were Santorum supporters.”

With ballot access a timely and difficult thing for many third party candidates, Johnson said people looking for a third-party candidate should know his party will be on every state’s ballots.

“What’s not being reported right now, and I think should be, is that the Libertarian Party is going to be on the ballot in all 50 states,” he said.

Criticizing Trump, Johnson said: “I never said anything as crazy as I’m going to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, I never said anything as crazy as I’m going to build a fence across the border, never said anything as crazy as I’m going to kill the families of Islamic terrorists – who’s going to arbitrate over that?”

“He’s going to force the military to bring back waterboarding, and worse, torture, to detainees,” Johnson said. “Trump: ‘I’m free market!’ In the next sentence: ‘I’m going to force Apple to make their iPhones and their iPads in the United States.’ I’ve never said anything in my political career as dumb as any of those things.”

Asked about the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton, Johnson said: “The FBI may in fact present a preponderance of evidence that says that she should be indicted – but I can’t imagine that the Justice Department will do that. I can’t imagine it.”

“And, that aside, how do you get any more establishment than the Clintons and Democrat politics? You can’t. Is anything going to change with Hillary? No, nothing’s going to change.”
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Because Donald Trump hasn't been a big enough asshole yet.

Taken out of context. He was asked if abortion were to be outlawed, should there be punishment for women who get an abortion.
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I don't understand what she/her campaign thinks she is going to gain, though, other than making the campaign feel better about its direction?
She really seems badly out of touch with the general public/middle class. Its scary that she's likely our next President.

(Its pretty scary that any of the 5 remaining candidates is going to be our next President)
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(Its pretty scary that any of the 5 remaining candidates is going to be our next President)
is it all that scary if Bernie becomes president? I don't really think so.
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is it all that scary if Bernie becomes president? I don't really think so.
You might when you get out of school and start paying taxes.
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You might when you get out of school and start paying taxes.
his tax plan won't increase tax expense all significantly unless you're making more than 200,000 or so. no way I'm making that much money.
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You guys pay obscenely low taxes compared to us. It's really, honestly not that bad. I pay 30% of every paycheque plus 13% sales tax on everything I buy (and all the other sundry ones) directly to the government. The health care is worth it alone. Even just a weekend in a hospital would completely bankrupt me if I had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd be out on the street, quite literally. As it stands now I could get gravely ill and not have to go into poverty as a result.

I know that's easily said, but Americans seem to be absolutely terrified of taxes. Sure, a lot of it gets wasted, but in my experience it's generally been worth the money.
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You might when you get out of school and start paying taxes.

I'm in between school. Doing school and work right now. I got taxed hardcore as is (independent contractor work 😑).

I'm not afraid of more taxes. More fearful of not withholding taxes after this fiscal year 😂
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You guys pay obscenely low taxes compared to us. It's really, honestly not that bad. I pay 30% of every paycheque plus 13% sales tax on everything I buy (and all the other sundry ones) directly to the government. The health care is worth it alone. Even just a weekend in a hospital would completely bankrupt me if I had to pay for it out of pocket. I'd be out on the street, quite literally. As it stands now I could get gravely ill and not have to go into poverty as a result.

I know that's easily said, but Americans seem to be absolutely terrified of taxes. Sure, a lot of it gets wasted, but in my experience it's generally been worth the money.
That about describes my situation too, albeit probably in another different country again. There are swings and roundabouts in this world. Did you know Australia spends less as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than the US? Like, way less.
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I'm in between school. Doing school and work right now. I got taxed hardcore as is (independent contractor work 😑).

I'm not afraid of more taxes. More fearful of not withholding taxes after this fiscal year 😂
My condolences.
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And it's not like if my taxes were suddenly way lower or even 0% for that matter, that I'd be able to afford something like a major surgery if I needed one. I'd still be 100% fucked. I haven't needed the health care system in Canada for very much so far in my life, and even if I never once spend any serious time in the hospital (knock on wood), my taxes went to pay for things like sick kids's treatment and needy folks getting the medical help they wouldn't get otherwise.
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That's the whole point of taxation (well, one of its points, the other is to ensure the national currency is recognised as a common medium of exchange) - to socialise certain costs.

In some fantasy world it might be ok for everyone to be their own little petty borgeoise sole trader, paying for doctors and surgeries like you pay for a nice meal at a restaurant. But that world looks a lot like hell to me.
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his tax plan won't increase tax expense all significantly unless you're making more than 200,000 or so. no way I'm making that much money.
Right, cause you're just set for life if you're making 200-250k
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Right, cause you're just set for life if you're making 200-250k
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