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Old 07-25-2016, 09:24 PM   #161
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It was incredible. I'm really going to miss the Obamas.
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It was incredible. I'm really going to miss the Obamas.
Same. What a speech.
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Michelle is fucking flawless.
Oy. We don't have a "like" button. #itsbeenawhile #usedtoFacebook
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It was nice to see a Kennedy. #nostalgia
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Well, looks like I'll be looking up Michelle's speech later . I'm not surprised she'd give a great speech, though. She's so cool .

Also, hi, Sean !
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Both parties are really reaping what they've sown this year. The result is one candidate that is lackluster and another who is a downright disaster.
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Both parties are really reaping what they've sown this year. The result is one candidate that is lackluster and another who is a downright disaster.

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nope.

Ralph Nader gave us:

1. The Iraq War
2. Dick Cheney
3. Alito and Roberts
4. Citizens United
5. torture

whatever fresh hell awaits us will be your fault if Trump wins.
That was Bush. Bush was President.

I mean, if the party members really cared about beating Trump, they wouldn't have nominated Clinton over Sanders.
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God she should have picked Booker
No thanks. I don't want Clinton to choose our President from 2025-2033 for me.
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Pretty much this. And to tie it to another thread in this conversation, feelings have overtaken facts.

While Hillary is no saint, she's no where close to the most evil, corrupt, most murderous, candidate in the history of the world.

When we replace logic and reason with feelings, then we get Donald Trump for president
Same argument over and over for Clinton. "But we must stop Trump!" "But we have to stop Trump!"

If you cared about beating the Republican candidate, you wouldn't have nominated someone so disliked by the rest of the American population. It was pointed out time and again, reiterated in poll after poll from heads-up matchups to trustworthiness to likability. But none of that mattered because it was her turn, goddammit!

This will go down as the ultimate entitlement election. Two exceedingly rich and famous people thinking they are entitled to the Presidency.
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That was Bush. Bush was President.

I mean, if the party members really cared about beating Trump, they wouldn't have nominated Clinton over Sanders.


Nader and his ridiculous voters made him president.
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my god, are you still fucking whining about this?
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Well, I like to actually make sure there isn't going to be a Trump Presidency and the morons fucked everything up. That's well worth whining over.
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Same argument over and over for Clinton. "But we must stop Trump!" "But we have to stop Trump!"

If you cared about beating the Republican candidate, you wouldn't have nominated someone so disliked by the rest of the American population. It was pointed out time and again, reiterated in poll after poll from heads-up matchups to trustworthiness to likability. But none of that mattered because it was her turn, goddammit!

This will go down as the ultimate entitlement election. Two exceedingly rich and famous people thinking they are entitled to the Presidency.



Bernie lost. It wasn't close. It never was. You can pull out your casual racism to explain, but the fact is that she was the overwhelming choice of Democratic primary voters.
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Nader and his ridiculous voters made him president.
Nope. Bush's voters got him elected by getting him enough votes to win enough states to get to 270 electoral votes. I guess you don't understand how elections work.
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part XI

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Well, I like to actually make sure there isn't going to be a Trump Presidency and the morons fucked everything up. That's well worth whining over.




Then you'll be voting for Hillary and D's all down the ticket. And in off year elections. Good to hear.

It's what Bernie wants you to do.
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Nope. Bush's voters got him elected by getting him enough votes to win enough states to get to 270 electoral votes. I guess you don't understand how elections work.


Except that Gore won the popular vote and it was Nader voters who took votes from Gore in critical Florida.

You'll also note that Sanders endorsed Gore in 2000.
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