2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part X

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Diemen

this is the worst TED talk ever.

[deep]

Originally Posted by anitram

I actually wondered if there was something wrong with her. She has a really odd speaking style. It reminds me of a woman that I went to school with who had a serious stuttering problem which was corrected with the help of a great speech pathologist but she also had those awkward pauses.

I could speculate on any conditions she might have, but bottom line it was a poorly created speech, and poorly delivered, with not much of a message. The old guy (business partner) that was about the same time as her was really bad too.


I realize we all have bias, but what was your impression of the woman that spoke that runs the Eric Trump Charity Foundation?

[mikal]

Originally Posted by BVS

So the speech writer that offered up her resignation...

Might be a fake:

BREAKING: Speechwriter Blamed For Melania's Plagiarism Likely A FAKE Person!


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Holy crap!

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Shut the front door...

[womanfish]

Originally Posted by mikal

Holy crap!

Unfortunately, it is a real person i guess. I was so hoping for her to be made up. sigh...

[BVS]

Originally Posted by womanfish

Unfortunately, it is a real person i guess. I was so hoping for her to be made up. sigh...

She is? I still haven't found anything. Apparently she has a Facebook page... that she created yesterday.


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[womanfish]

Originally Posted by BVS

She is? I still haven't found anything. Apparently she has a Facebook page... that she created yesterday.


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People starting to think Trump speechwriter isn't even real | Politics - WCVB Home

[BVS]

Originally Posted by womanfish

People starting to think Trump speechwriter isn't even real | Politics - WCVB Home

Ha, too funny...


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[Diemen]

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/1221813...ination-afraid

I'd be curious to see if any pro-Trumpers could debate the points raised in this article without referencing Hillary.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Diemen

[mod hat off]I can find no better example of the difference between Donald Trump's "we're going to be winning, it's going to be great, it's going to be yuuuuge, you've never seen it so great" bluster and the actual amateur hour reality. This is Michelle Van Etten, pill peddler, with a prime time speech slot at the RNC.

I should have stayed home last night and watched that.
Riveting.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by bobsaget77

Cruz is done. He will lose in the republican primary in 2018, especially if Trump is elected. Texans have turned against him. He used to be very popular in this state, but now we hate him.

I tend to agree. Even if Trump gets McGoverned by Hillary, I think Cruz burned far too many bridges and was a shitty candidate to begin with.



Oh and Fuck Ted Cruz.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Hewson

I tend to agree. Even if Trump gets McGoverned by Hillary, I think Cruz burned far too many bridges and was a shitty candidate to begin with.



Oh and Fuck Ted Cruz.

You're assuming the Republican party operates under the guise of logic.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by womanfish

People starting to think Trump speechwriter isn't even real | Politics - WCVB Home

Registered Democrat. Ha

[BigMacPhisto]

Eh, Trump wanting to pull back from NATO unless we get paid isn't morally right, but pulling back from military interventionism is always right. There is no doubt in my mind that he'd be less of a war hawk than Clinton and if he actually means what he says on trade, that's the other plus. Everything else he "supports" is absolute garbage, mind you.

[deep]

The man has principles, one has to admire that.

Hawk Newsome cares deeply about America's presidential election.

He and other activists in the Black Lives Matter movement have this week driven all the way from New York to Cleveland to demonstrate outside the Republican National Convention, couch-surfing with friends along the way. Next week, they'll be doing the same in Philadelphia at the Democratic National Convention.

But one thing that Newsome and his friends say they won't be doing in November is voting. For anyone.

"Neither party has stepped to the front and made Black Lives Matter a priority," he says. "Hillary Clinton has the votes of millions of African Americans in her hands. But she's promoting herself. And the problem is that we are settling [for that]!"

Newsome is leading a new campaign to get African Americans to do something that few civil rights leaders have recommended: stop voting. He believes that only by withdrawing support from the major parties can black communities force politicians to address their concerns about police brutality.

He calls it "I Ain’t Voting" — and he says he’s aware that it could be seen as a rejection of the struggle that a previous generation went through.

[Oregoropa]

Originally Posted by Diemen

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/1221813...ination-afraid

I'd be curious to see if any pro-Trumpers could debate the points raised in this article without referencing Hillary.

I would argue you can see some of same traits in our current President

Vindictive

- Held a bi-partisan panel discussion on health care with Paul Ryan taking the policy lead. Came out to a press conference and dressed him down while he sat in the front row. So much for reaching across the aisle

- Didn't like Citizens United decision. Put SCOTUS on blast in front of the nation during the State of the Union.

Sycophants and yes people in his inner circle. Seems to ignore CIA and defense officials public warnings that ISIS is trying to embed itself in the refugee stream.


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[BVS]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

There is no doubt in my mind that he'd be less of a war hawk than Clinton

Listen, I got this bridge for sale, I'll give you a great deal.

Have you been paying attention to Mr. NotTakingNukingEurope off the table? Like, at all?


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[BVS]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

I would argue you can see some of same traits in our current President

Vindictive

- Held a bi-partisan panel discussion on health care with Paul Ryan taking the policy lead. Came out to a press conference and dressed him down while he sat in the front row. So much for reaching across the aisle

- Didn't like Citizens United decision. Put SCOTUS on blast in front of the nation during the State of the Union.

Sycophants and yes people in his inner circle. Seems to ignore CIA and defense officials public warnings that ISIS is trying to embed itself in the refugee stream.


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Well he didn't mention Hillary

but you still managed to prove diemen's point


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[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

I would argue you can see some of same traits in our current President

Vindictive

- Held a bi-partisan panel discussion on health care with Paul Ryan taking the policy lead. Came out to a press conference and dressed him down while he sat in the front row. So much for reaching across the aisle

- Didn't like Citizens United decision. Put SCOTUS on blast in front of the nation during the State of the Union.

That's not vindictive? That's calling people out for bad decision-making? Citizens United was a horrible decision. And the Republicans had no interest in trying to be bipartisan on health care. The moment Obama came on board as being willing to embrace some, if not all, of the tenets of Romneycare, suddenly the Republicans didn't support it anymore. They were the petty, uncompromising ones here, not Obama. That's why the bill we finally got was so watered down.

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Sycophants and yes people in his inner circle. Seems to ignore CIA and defense officials public warnings that ISIS is trying to embed itself in the refugee stream.

1, yes, because Trump doesn't have ANY sycophants or yes men in his inner circle, right? No other politician has ever had those.

2a, is it that he's ignoring them, or more that he's trying to find ways to take down ISIS without having to endanger refugees in the process?

2b, I fail to see what that has to do with a discussion about comparisons between him and Trump.

The suggestion was to try and respond to the complaints about Trump specifically. How do those of you who support Trump here respond to the allegations and accusations about HIM that were made in that article. Don't go off on a, "Well, Obama/Hilary does it, too!" rant. This is about Trump and Trump alone.

Please, do share your thoughts. I'd be very interested to hear them, too.

[Oregoropa]

A liberal publication publishes an article critical of Trump citing a disaffected Republican.

Not going to spend time on it, just as I would expect others in the forum to brush off a Breibart article critical of Hillary citing a disaffected Democrat.

I did however want to put up a mirror to Obama's behavior.




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