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Old 07-15-2016, 05:23 AM   #381
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Trump is legitimately running a campaign where he has to answer for nothing.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:49 AM   #382
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Sanders basically would be entitled to every lifelong Democrat voting for him in November and it's those lifelong Democrats that made up the vast majority of Clinton primary votes.

This kind of sums it all up doesn't it?



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The orange douche announces his VP pick (of another slightly orange guy) via Twitter. Classy as ever!
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womanfish ..

was it you(or iron yuppie) who said you despised Jill Stein?
I just know she's the green candidate.

What do you see wrong with her?
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Old 07-15-2016, 12:44 PM   #387
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womanfish ..

was it you(or iron yuppie) who said you despised Jill Stein?
I just know she's the green candidate.

What do you see wrong with her?
Jill would be ok if she would a campaign on issues. The least I could say of Nader, is that he never based his campaign on using right wing smears against a Democratic Candidate.
Also, from the get go, she seemed to try and piggyback herself onto the Bernie campaign. She was a candidate of a different party, but her social media presence through the primaries was to praise a candidate of a different party (Bernie) while making visciously right-wing talking point attacks on Hillary.
Then for the topper, she says, hey Bernie, be MY running mate! LOL. When that didn't work. Hey Bernie, I'll step down and YOU can run third party!
JESUS. It became obvious she has no intention of actually being a serious change maker, she became an anti-hillary zealot.

Then, when Bernie does the right thing, and endorses Clinton, she goes after him.

Her resume reads like a trail of tears. I mean, if you applied for a job and your resume was a list of all the jobs you've applied for but DIDN'T get, how would that work out for you?

It may seem old fashioned, but I DO like a candidate based in reality. A read through of her "platform" sounds like a mix of about half of what Hillary is proposing, and half sounds like a conversation around a drum circle/sweat lodge.
Hillary did more in her first few years after college than she has done in a lifetime.

Where would our country be right now if Ralph Nader hadn't gotten enough votes in Florida (and NH) to hand to election to Bush?

would 9/11 have even happened? Even if it had, would the aftermath of it, Invasion of Iraq, which spurred on the crippling debt, the rise of terror groups, etc.. have happened? I don't think so.

Idealism is great. But being a spoiler that ends up bringing down a viable candidate with real progressive ideas and the ability to get them done is not ok in my book. In fact, in may be the least progressive thing you could do.
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This kind of sums it all up doesn't it?
I think so. And it's exactly the key reason why I think Sanders would do better. Nobody that supports Clinton would not vote for Sanders in November.

They allowed Sanders to run in their primary and if he won, that would have been on them. Clinton wasn't entitled to the nomination simply because she'd been with the party virtually her entire adult life, but the most fanatical of Sanders supporters should have realized how hard it would be to defeat someone with so much support among the party's voters and its internal machine.
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I think so. And it's exactly the key reason why I think Sanders would do better. Nobody that supports Clinton would not vote for Sanders in November.

They allowed Sanders to run in their primary and if he won, that would have been on them. Clinton wasn't entitled to the nomination simply because she'd been with the party virtually her entire adult life, but the most fanatical of Sanders supporters should have realized how hard it would be to defeat someone with so much support among the party's voters and its internal machine.
I'm a Clinton voter and would have needed a lot of selling to vote for Sanders in November. I obviously would never vote for Trump but Sanders scared me as well. I may have ended up coming around to him, but not 100% sure on that. I know others that feel the same way.
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He's not for sale, but I bet he followed that sentence by asking you for money.
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Courage, as always.

I just loved his usage of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The orange douche announces his VP pick (of another slightly orange guy) via Twitter. Classy as ever!
In the Oompa Loompa's defense, he had a press conference scheduled for today to introduce Pence, but postponed it in deference to the Nice situation.
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"Trump understands the frustrations and the hopes of the American people like no other American leader in my lifetime since Ronald Reagan."
*Snorts* Uh-huh...
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Courage, as always.

I just loved his usage of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The warm feeling you get from seeing shrug guy is worth $18.81 for sure.
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Everybody who endorsed Sanders got to cash in big when it came to political contributions as evidenced by the incredible amount of contributions received by Grayson. It was actually the more strategically sound move unless you were certain that Clinton was going to give you some plush cabinet position. After all, would you rather get a flood of donations from Sanders' vast network or just be the 431st prominent Democrat to endorse Hillary?
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Each daily email has comic relief. If that doesn't say "be my senator" I don't know what does!
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The orange douche announces his VP pick (of another slightly orange guy) via Twitter. Classy as ever!
Well, to be fair, it was going to be a Big Event today, but he cancelled that in lieu of the events in Nice. So for once in his orange life, I don't think this is worthy of a callout.

Edit: shoulda read the rest of the thread. Hewson beat me to it.
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Edit: shoulda read the rest of the thread. Hewson beat me to it.
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or is it 2 minds too small for 2 thoughts?
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2 minds that are 2 legit 2 quit.
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This is going to be a polling landslide for Clinton eventually...it's just a question of when. Unless people really dislike her to the point that millions of expected voters don't even bother showing up, she's eventually going to grab all of those people on the fence.

She has 43 points in the two-way polling race compared to Trump's 40. If they just matched the 2012 totals, that would mean Clinton is 8 points off Obama's 51% and Trump is seven points behind Romney's 47%. But Trump's general shittiness and a demographic swing that continues to favor Democrats should mean he sits at about 45%, tops.

And of course, none of that is throwing Johnson into the equation. Ultimately, I think those Clinton voters that really dislike her are going to check her name off the box on their vote-by-mail ballots and that will be the end of all of this "worry" from certain groups on the left. It will be the first election in American history where the winner has nearly half of their supporters downright loathing them, but in a firmly entrenched two-party system, it was bound to happen at some point.

And let's be honest, she'll look like Mother friggin' Teresa when she debates that clown in the fall.
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