2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part VI

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by DaveC

For a morbidly obese crack addict who worked a high-stress job and was known to hang out constantly with murderers, drug dealers, and gang members?

Just speaking in general, obviously Mr. Ford's lifestyle was far from healthy. Whether that directly led to his cancer or not I don't know. Its still unfortunate to see someone pass at that age.

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by DaveC

For a morbidly obese crack addict who worked a high-stress job and was known to hang out constantly with murderers, drug dealers, and gang members?

I don't know why but that description of him is so accurate that I kinda laughed.

[DaveC]

He beat his wife and kids regularly, drove drunk with his children in the car, screwed a hooker while forcing his wife to watch, and has been directly implicated in at least one attempted murder. It's really not that unfortunate that he's gone.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by DaveC

It's really not that unfortunate that he's gone.

Except to his family who probably still loved him despite his (many) faults.

We all contain multitudes.

[DaveC]

I disagree. Surely they are devastated now, but they're also unquestionably better off in the long run without him in their lives (barring some hypothetical future "come to Jesus" epiphany that totally changed everything he fundamentally was as a person).

[corianderstem]

Still relevant:

Fuck Ted Cruz.

[Oregoropa]

Let's all change our Avatars to honor Rob Ford as it argued that he was just as influential as Bowie


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[deep]

Originally Posted by DaveC

He beat his wife and kids regularly, drove drunk with his children in the car, screwed a hooker while forcing his wife to watch, and has been directly implicated in at least one attempted murder. It's really not that unfortunate that he's gone.

you could have just wrote he was Canadian.

[DaveC]

[Mack_Again]

it's interesting that song Bernie's rally play when he exited was Starman. Bernie has some killer song choices.

[elevated_u2_fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdZuNHODBHk

[dazzledbylight]

Originally Posted by Hewson

Really horrible news.

Since there was no separate thread

my thoughts are with our Euro & Belgium friends .

(No net at home or WiFi in my nabe, finally at a free subway WiFi)

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Ted Cruz today on CNN did two things that I believe are noteworthy in his defense of his wife against Trump's threats.

First off, he actually stole part of his statement verbatim from Michael Douglas in The American President, which is awesome. If we ever face an invasion, I hope he quotes Bill Pullman.

Secondly... when talking of how great his wife was, the first thing he said was that she was the daughter of missionaries to Africa.

So the favorite thing about his wife is that her parents tried to get brown people to obey the one true spaghetti monster... which, ya know, is fucking scary.

Trump has that I don't give a fuck what you think racism. Ted has the backhanded subtle kinda racism. Either way, it's all the same.

Oh, and fuck Ted Cruz.

[trojanchick99]

Hillary Clinton is currently on my campus speaking about homeland security. Of the current candidates, she is the only one I'd trust when it comes to foreign policy.

[BigMacPhisto]

It's starting to look like Sanders will actually get closer to his delegate target by the end of the primaries than Trump will. Sanders is currently at 89% of where he needs to be according to the 538 targets while Trump is at 96%...while Sanders has a ton of favorable states on the way and Cruz is creeping up on Trump in the polls now that there's hardly anybody left in the race.

Also problematic, early voting. Rubio and the other no-longer-candidates were running neck-and-neck with Cruz in Arizona's results. That's a huge chunk of wasted votes. The same issue has been occurring in the Democratic primary where Sanders has beaten Clinton in same-day primary voting in every state outside of the deep south. Unfortunately for him, tons of voters have already checked the box next to Clinton's name weeks before Sanders starts airing ads and making personal appearances in a given state. More than a little unfair to have people voting before they even know who you are...

[Irvine511]

Unfair?

[deep]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

It's starting to look like Sanders will actually get closer to his delegate target by the end of the primaries than Trump will. Sanders is currently at 89% of where he needs to be according to the 538 targets while Trump is at 96%...while Sanders has a ton of favorable states on the way and Cruz is creeping up on Trump in the polls now that there's hardly anybody left in the race.

Also problematic, early voting. Rubio and the other no-longer-candidates were running neck-and-neck with Cruz in Arizona's results. That's a huge chunk of wasted votes. The same issue has been occurring in the Democratic primary where Sanders has beaten Clinton in same-day primary voting in every state outside of the deep south. Unfortunately for him, tons of voters have already checked the box next to Clinton's name weeks before Sanders starts airing ads and making personal appearances in a given state. More than a little unfair to have people voting before they even know who you are...

it can't be unfair, if people are stupid enough to vote early when events and candidates could change things up before one has to decide.


I am seeing it differently than you, time will soon tell which of us is more correct

I was thinking Trump would be at 1000 delegates by the end of April. Looking into this more, each state party has their own fucked up way of assigning the delegates, Trump will easily win Penn., but delegates are awarded per district on a slate vote? how stupid is that??

As for Bernie, I don't believe he will get the delegates, but his chances are improving because Hillary's indictment is more probable each day, her best hope is they can stall it until after the convention and maybe even the election. I would not put it pass a lame-duck Obama to give her a blanket pardon like Ford gave Nixon, with some bullshit speech, like a trial would tear the country apart and serve no real purpose for a simple lapse in judgement.


(hi Mack, Bernie has a shot, keep Berning hope alive!)

[trojanchick99]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Also problematic, early voting. Rubio and the other no-longer-candidates were running neck-and-neck with Cruz in Arizona's results. That's a huge chunk of wasted votes. The same issue has been occurring in the Democratic primary where Sanders has beaten Clinton in same-day primary voting in every state outside of the deep south. Unfortunately for him, tons of voters have already checked the box next to Clinton's name weeks before Sanders starts airing ads and making personal appearances in a given state. More than a little unfair to have people voting before they even know who you are...

Early voting is unfair? No, it's the fairest way to get the most people out to vote. You don't think that people who vote early, do research? It's not like the campaign hasn't been going on forever. Everyone knows where the candidates stand at this point. Obviously, nothing Hillary says will change your mind, right? So if your state offered early voting, wouldn't it make sense for you to vote. This way you don't chance getting sick on election day, or more commonly, extremely long lines.

[deep]

his point was that people early voted for Rubio and then Rubio dropped out of the race
so those people had no chance to vote for one of the remaining three candidates in the race.

If people early voted for O'Malley and he got 8% and he dropped out, and Hillary or Bernie won by 1/2 per cent the loser would be claiming they got robbed of a win.

[trojanchick99]

Originally Posted by deep

his point was that people early voted for Rubio and then Rubio dropped out of the race
so those people had no chance to vote for one of the remaining three candidates in the race.

If people early voted for O'Malley and he got 8% and he dropped out, and Hillary or Bernie won by 1/2 per cent the loser would be claiming they got robbed of a win.

That was one of his points, but the second was that people were voting before they got to go to a local Bernie event and be swayed.