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Old 03-14-2016, 02:00 PM   #561
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So Jean Claude Van Damme went on a rant this weekend about how the NWO won't allow Trump to win. And now all the conspiracy websites have a new god. This could be bigger than a Palin endorsement.


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Our presidential elections always only come down to 2 choices
with that, my preferences is for the best (or least bad) nominees

for the Dems, that is Hillary, easy choice

and for the GOP we are down to two, Cruz or Trump

and most of you are advocating for this man??

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Old 03-14-2016, 03:19 PM   #564
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Our presidential elections always only come down to 2 choices
with that, my preferences is for the best (or least bad) nominees

for the Dems, that is Hillary, easy choice

and for the GOP we are down to two, Cruz or Trump

and most of you are advocating for this man??

VIDEO UNEARTHED=> Pastor Calls for Execution of Gays - Then Introduces Ted Cruz at Conference - The Gateway Pundit

I think Bob is the only one advocating for that man.


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your choice for the GOP nominee is either Trump or Cruz

as GOP supporters choice for the Dem nominee is Hillary or Sanders

that being said, most sane GOP supporters would consider Hillary the better (or least bad) Dem nominee

that said who do you consider the better (or least bad) nominee for the GOP between the two possibilities

I ask this question, because all the years I have been watching the elections, there is no sure thing, except either the Dem or GOP nominee wins,
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Old 03-14-2016, 04:02 PM   #566
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your choice for the GOP nominee is either Trump or Cruz

as GOP supporters choice for the Dem nominee is Hillary or Sanders

that being said, most sane GOP supporters would consider Hillary the better (or least bad) Dem nominee

that said who do you consider the better (or least bad) nominee for the GOP between the two possibilities

I ask this question, because all the years I have been watching the elections, there is no sure thing, except either the Dem or GOP nominee wins,

Well playing Russian roulette isn't exactly the same as advocating. What I've been advocating is that the GOP get their shit together, instead they gave us the worst debacle in recent history; the evil we know or the evil we don't know. Given that choice I'd go with the evil we know because I don't think he has the math on his side.


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in that case GOP supporters should want Sanders to be the nominee, because he will most likely lose to any GOP nominee,

wanting what is best for the country, I always want the best (or least bad) nominees to be selected, wanting the worst nominee on one side is playing Russian roulette, so put the gun to your head and pull the trigger You deserve to have Cruz picking Supreme Court nominees and making presidential singing orders and the like, no chance of him finding any common ground with any Dems or putting working class people interests before insiders
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I've said before I'd rather go with Trump than Cruz.

Cruz is a true believer, with him you know what you're getting - an uncompromising dominionist. There is no middle ground there. The only advantage is that I think he's completely unelectable but if things go sideways, well he'd be the last person I'd want in the WH.

Trump is a blowhard asshole without any real ideas who has probably surrounded himself with yes men his whole life to feed his elephantine ego. But I think he is already moderating his message, I agree with all those who have said here and elsewhere that at his core he probably doesn't care about guns, gays, abortion or religion. Clearly Mexico isn't paying for a wall, clearly he's already said as much to the NYT, and as astonishing as it may sound I think that he'd be a more reasonable choice than Cruz. He is more media savvy than we think and he's pegged the dumb and racist Republican electorate for exactly what it is. But he's unscrupulous and will leave them in the trash as soon as he focuses on the general.

This isn't to say I in any way support Trump, his lack of vision, his idiotic statements or first grade behaviour. But I think 4 years with him would be a throwaway, Congress would let him do nothing he wants anyway. He'd probably appoint his liberal sister to SCOTUS. 4 years with Cruz are more terrifying to me.
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in that case GOP supporters should want Sanders to be the nominee, because he will most likely lose to any GOP nominee,

wanting what is best for the country, I always want the best (or least bad) nominees to be selected, wanting the worst nominee on one side is playing Russian roulette, so put the gun to your head and pull the trigger You deserve to have Cruz picking Supreme Court nominees and making presidential singing orders and the like, no chance of him finding any common ground with any Dems or putting working class people interests before insiders

Everything you say about Cruz is true, it's why I despise the right for giving us this. I just don't know what we're getting with Trump. Is he going to start locking up people for disagreeing with him, is he going to pull out the launch codes when a country bruises his ego, they gave us someone who could potentially be worse than Cruz. Then what? Either way this country burns.

But it will be a great fire. Everyone will love it.


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I don't agree with your assessment of Trump or all of his supporters, some sure,
that said whatever the anti Trump people in here are going on about, Cruz has those same beliefs dyed to the core of his person and would use his Senate skills and connections to move them forward with success,
I believe Trump motivations are for accomplishing what he believes is best for his core constituents, fed up working class people, and there is some common ground there across party lines, I also think he could use the bully pulpit of the populace to get some decent? things accomplished,

but at the end of the day, I expect Hillary to win, but prefer Trump as the fall back option over Cruz with a GOP House and most likely a GOP Senate, people should think of that.
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I don't agree with your assessment of Trump or all of his supporters, some sure,
that said whatever the anti Trump people in here are going on about, Cruz has those same beliefs dyed to the core of his person and would use his Senate skills and connections to move them forward with success,
I believe Trump motivations are for accomplishing what he believes is best for his core constituents, fed up working class people, and there is some common ground there across party lines, I also think he could use the bully pulpit of the populace to get some decent? things accomplished,

but at the end of the day, I expect Hillary to win, but prefer Trump as the fall back option over Cruz with a GOP House and most likely a GOP Senate, people should think of that.

You have much more faith than I do. I'd believe in the Easter Fairy riding magic leprechauns well before believing Trump would look out for anyone other than Trump.


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I've said before I'd rather go with Trump than Cruz.

Cruz is a true believer, with him you know what you're getting - an uncompromising dominionist. There is no middle ground there. The only advantage is that I think he's completely unelectable but if things go sideways, well he'd be the last person I'd want in the WH.

Trump is a blowhard asshole without any real ideas who has probably surrounded himself with yes men his whole life to feed his elephantine ego. But I think he is already moderating his message, I agree with all those who have said here and elsewhere that at his core he probably doesn't care about guns, gays, abortion or religion. Clearly Mexico isn't paying for a wall, clearly he's already said as much to the NYT, and as astonishing as it may sound I think that he'd be a more reasonable choice than Cruz. He is more media savvy than we think and he's pegged the dumb and racist Republican electorate for exactly what it is. But he's unscrupulous and will leave them in the trash as soon as he focuses on the general.

This isn't to say I in any way support Trump, his lack of vision, his idiotic statements or first grade behaviour. But I think 4 years with him would be a throwaway, Congress would let him do nothing he wants anyway. He'd probably appoint his liberal sister to SCOTUS. 4 years with Cruz are more terrifying to me.

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Yeah, I'm not about settling on one or the other. Cruz is guaranteed to set us back a decade, but Trump could do more or less. I don't know what is "worse."
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I feel Cruz could/would destroy America.

It's Trump who could/would destroy the world.
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