2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part VI

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by nbelcik

If you want to see the results of conservative economics, look at Kansas and Louisiana.


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or Michigan? I really haven't lived in places with republican governor so I may be bit unknowledgeable about this issue.

and also:

 

calm down, Bob Saget

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[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by bobsaget77

Really? He just called me an a**hole. Smh. It's easy to act like the way they do when they're not being constantly attacked on here.

You're not being constantly attacked. One guy calling you an asshole is not you being constantly attacked.

The awful policies and candidates and political party you support are continually proven objectively bad through sound argument, and you take it personally. That, on the other hand, is true. I don't know why you support objectively incorrect positions, and so many of them, but here we are.

I'm not an Internet tough guy. I'm an exhausted 25-year-old American who has fucking had it with the GOP. I'm not someone who goes to rallies, and I don't hate my friends and families who are Republican. My whole family is Republican. I'm from an Irish Catholic Philly family with 50+ close relatives and I'm the only liberal. We agree simply to not discuss it, and I get along great with them.

But the Republicans, including them, are wrong. They're just wrong, all the time, and I don't understand why anyone would want to follow along with their plans unless (a) they were simply so uneducated that they didn't understand, (b) they lack the intellectual curiosity to look outside their own world, or (c) they're so wealthy and lacking in empathy that they don't care. From my background, most of the people I interact with of the GOP persuasion come from option B.

I was conservative up until I was about 15 or 16 years old. You know what changed? The Internet. It opened up my world to so many viewpoints that you don't get in a suburban Irish Catholic middle class family. And I'm a better person for it.

[LemonMelon]

Headache's post was great. The partisan hatred/support binary is everything wrong with a two party system that has countless things wrong with it already.

When praise toward a man in another party is a nail in their coffin, you know the country's priorities are fucked.

[PhilsFan]

The real tragedy of Sandy was that it reflected well on Obama.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

#GOP2016

This picture I think might've actually been taken by one of the protestors, oddly enough. It was on my news feed really early (the rally is at my university).

The outside was a relatively large protest. Here's the front door:





Sort of expected... when you host on a college campus.

[Axver]

Today's results make Marco look very little indeed.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic primary in Nebraska kinda surprises me. It's a good surprise, though.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic primary in Nebraska kinda surprises me. It's a good surprise, though.

Why does it surprise you?

[Moonlit_Angel]

Mainly just 'cause from my experience when living there, the people who were Democratic were a little more moderate/centrist (I know there's moderate Democrats elsewhere that like him, of course, but I didn't know if some people still bought into the "he's a little too far to the left" attitude). That, and many people still have fond memories of Bill Clinton in this general area of the country, from what I've seen, and so Hilary gets support by default.

[LuckyNumber7]

I just imagine the only liberal populations there to be in Lincoln by the university (young) or in Omaha. I've never actually been, but a lot of colleagues tend to be from there. Maybe that's my bias.

[Mack_Again]

I am so going to rally for Bernie on Monday.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I just imagine the only liberal populations there to be in Lincoln by the university (young) or in Omaha. I've never actually been, but a lot of colleagues tend to be from there. Maybe that's my bias.

Yeah, when I lived there we lived just a little ways away from both of those cities. The actual town I lived in was a more conservative one, but much of the liberal attitudes I came across were from people who lived in one of those cities.

But then again, I've lived in small towns in other states that had liberal pockets in them, so...who knows?

[deep]

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

I am so going to rally for Bernie on Monday.

This could be the turning point in his campaign.

[Vlad n U 2]

Mack's ready to feel the Bern_Again.

[nbelcik]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

I was conservative up until I was about 15 or 16 years old. You know what changed? The Internet. It opened up my world to so many viewpoints that you don't get in a suburban Irish Catholic middle class family. And I'm a better person for it.

Me too PhilsFan. I used to be a conservative due to the influence of my uncle and grandfather. When I was becoming more interested in politics around middle school I was reading books by Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. But as I got more into politics and began learning more about this nation and its history I began to realize how wrong I was. Since then I've changed my views a lot as I've listened to different perspectives on issues.


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[Headache in a Suitcase]

To be fair, I called anyone who loses respect for somebody who appreciated immediate aid for his constituents who were in life threatening situations to be an asshole.

That would be a group attack, not a personal one. And it's not really an attack if it's true. Cause it is.

Lose respect for Christie over bridge-gate? OK.

Lose respect for him changing his moderate views to try and pander to the far right? OK.

Lose respect for Christie for sidiling on up to Donald Trump just to spite Marco Rubio? OK.

Lose respect for Christie over his response to Hurricane Sandy? For fucks sake no. It's the best thing he ever did as governor, and showed true leadership; as he put what was best for the people of New Jersey in front of any bullshit political affiliation.

[U2DMfan]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

Mainly just 'cause from my experience when living there, the people who were Democratic were a little more moderate/centrist (I know there's moderate Democrats elsewhere that like him, of course, but I didn't know if some people still bought into the "he's a little too far to the left" attitude). That, and many people still have fond memories of Bill Clinton in this general area of the country, from what I've seen, and so Hilary gets support by default.

It's the same in Oklahoma and Kansas. Along with Nebraska, all three are solidly Red states (often with conservative Democrats). Throw in Iowa and Colorado, which are more purple states but you could say Bernie has kicked ass in the old "Big 12" primary.

I miss the old Big 12.

[Irvine511]

Rubio disintegrating. Cruz "surging." Trump yet to win 50% in any state.

Such a disaster for the GOP.

[LuckyNumber7]

Donald Trump credited himself for Bernie Sanders winning some states on Super Tuesday.

[deep]

I guess all his attacks on Hillary helped.