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Old 03-05-2016, 04:49 PM   #261
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Obama has been a terrible president and his first term was a disaster, that's why he was vulnerable. And no, Romney was a terrible candidate. As was McCain.
I'm not going to waste my time debating you on this because I won't convince you otherwise. You're a typical, liberal blind sheep. I know you'll try to spin this and play victim like always, so I'm ready for it.


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"Liberal, blind sheep." Lol, it's funny, because look at this whole Trump thing... get back to me on what political "sheep" are, and what party has the most of them at the moment.

If you think McCain was a terrible candidate, you must've really loved W. That statement makes no sense.
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i wish the GOP would die not because of Trump, but because we have proof that the core values, philosophies, and policies don't work and, in fact, lead states to social and financial ruin.

look at the mess Bobby Jindal left in Louisiana. here was someone who sought the governorship in order to build up a resume of GOP bonafides of cutting taxes for the wealthy, deregulating industry, cutting education, and slashing social services for the needy. he didn't do what was in the best interests of Louisiana, he did what he thought would make him attractive to a national electorate who fervently believe in this kind of nonsense without any kind of evidence.





similar things have happened in Kansas under Sam Brownback. when you cut taxes and subsidize big business, revenue shrinks and social services are cut and you run up massive devicits. i suppose if you want only to cut taxes for the wealthy and/or make it difficult for poor women to access reproductive health services while rendering states unable to funcdtion, then i suppose these are good models.

at least we have the satisfaction of knowing that Bobby Jindal sold his soul for political gain, and yet received no actual political gain.

I wish America could move past the Laffer Curve nonsense that Republicans like Brownback and Jindal keep toying with. Laffer was right that there is a point where tax cuts pay for themselves. But America is nowhere near that point. If you cut taxes, revenue will fall, full stop. Maybe it's worth it (it certainly is in some cases, although I'm skeptical that LA and KS were such cases), but at least a bit more honesty about them having to come with corresponding services cuts to balance the budget would be nice.


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Okay? I didn't glorify Beck. I just think underneath all of his oniony layers, he's not a terrible human being.

I was just saying that in response to the fact you said he left the Republican Party because of Cruz. He didn't. He left because of the establishment and he knew the party was dead.
I'm a big fan of Beck, even if I don't agree with everything he says.


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"Liberal, blind sheep." Lol, it's funny, because look at this whole Trump thing... get back to me on what political "sheep" are, and what party has the most of them at the moment.

If you think McCain was a terrible candidate, you must've really loved W. That statement makes no sense.

McCain and W sucked.


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I was clearly joking about Herman Cain.
Christie doesn't have appeal now because of the Hurricane Sandy thing where he helped Obama immensely and praised him a few days before the election. Turned a lot of people off for him. Then all the scandals. But in 2012, he was popular amongst all republicans.


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And that's why you guys suck. Seriously.

It was a huge natural disaster, where people died and billions of dollars were lost.

And you turned on one of your better potential candidates because he had the audacity to actually appreciate the federal government being supportive... unlike the previous major natural disaster in New Orleans, where the response of the Republican led federal government was one of the most disgraceful moments of this nation's history.

But yea, the election was more important.

Anyone who lost respect for Christie over Sandy and Obama is a heartless asshole whose opinion doesn't matter.
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And that's why you guys suck. Seriously.

It was a huge natural disaster, where people died and billions of dollars were lost.

And you turned on one of your better potential candidates because he had the audacity to actually appreciate the federal government being supportive... unlike the previous major natural disaster in New Orleans, where the response of the Republican led federal government was one of the most disgraceful moments of this nation's history.

But yea, the election was more important.

Assholes.

I really don't care what some pretentious internet tough guy has to say.
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I was just saying that in response to the fact you said he left the Republican Party because of Cruz. He didn't. He left because of the establishment and he knew the party was dead.
I'm a big fan of Beck, even if I don't agree with everything he says.


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I didn't mean he left the party because of Ted Cruz directly. I meant it in the sense that Ted Cruz was one of those blockade type members who are no different from the "establishment" who sought so hard to deny the presidential cabinet.

Of course, Cruz will never admit that he's establishment.
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McCain and W sucked.


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McCain had no chance. He's a good presidential candidate, who came about at the wrong time. And, if it weren't for W being a snake, he would've been on that ticket versus Gore.
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I really don't care what some pretentious internet tough guy has to say.
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Calm down, bob.

Really? He just called me an a**hole. Smh. It's easy to act like the way they do when they're not being constantly attacked on here.


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Seems like we are moving towards a Trump vs. Cruz head-to-head. Just what the GOP wanted.
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Seems like we are moving towards a Trump vs. Cruz head-to-head. Just what the GOP wanted.

Cruz has the momentum. Kansas isn't the most important state, but be trailed by 12 and won by 25+ points.
He also upset in Oklahoma and Alaska. Topped him in Minnesota and looks like he could upset Trump in Maine as well.
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Seems like we are moving towards a Trump vs. Cruz head-to-head. Just what the GOP wanted.


The Democrats, too.
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Cruz has less of a chance than Trump


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Our national debt has skyrocketed since he took office. Obviously, Bush increased the deficit as well, but under the Obama administration, our debt has doubled; we cannot sustain this kind of debt. Eventually, open market operations can only take us so far.
The pull out of Iraq was a disaster. We should have never been there, but he handled it terribly. Libya and Egypt were handled even worse. Led to radical Islam taking over both countries!
Obamacare is a disaster. It needs to be repealed and replaced.
Our racial divisions are worse than they've been since the 60's and his leadership throughout has been abysmal.
Yes, the economy was a mess when he took office, but this has been the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Record numbers of people who have dropped out of the work force.
I could go on and on...


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The deficit has gone down every year since Obama has been in office. We had an initial explosion of deficits due to the financial crisis, but it's been reduced every year.

The Iraq withdrawal was negotiated under President Bush.

The uninsured rate has gone down dramatically and health care spending rates have been reduced. The ACA would be even more effective if every state expanded Medicaid...but the GOP in many states is blocking the expansion.

Our racial divisions are occurring because more and more people are realizing just how much institutional and structural racism black Americans face. This is a good thing. Blacks should be more loud about the problems they face. We need to have a conversation about race. White Americans need to realize how much racism there still is in American rather than sweeping it under the rug like they used to. Ignoring racism won't make racism go away, it'll just perpetuate it.

Part of the reason why this has been such a slow recovery is because the government did not spend enough initially to get us out of the recession. We're doing far better than European countries that instituted austerity policies. If you want to see the results of conservative economics, look at Kansas and Louisiana.


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Our national debt has skyrocketed since he took office. Obviously, Bush increased the deficit as well, but under the Obama administration, our debt has doubled; we cannot sustain this kind of debt. Eventually, open market operations can only take us so far.
The pull out of Iraq was a disaster. We should have never been there, but he handled it terribly. Libya and Egypt were handled even worse. Led to radical Islam taking over both countries!
Obamacare is a disaster. It needs to be repealed and replaced.
Our racial divisions are worse than they've been since the 60's and his leadership throughout has been abysmal.
Yes, the economy was a mess when he took office, but this has been the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Record numbers of people who have dropped out of the work force.
I could go on and on...


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Can you explain to me why Obamacare is a "disaster"? And what it should be replaced with?

What leadership is needed for these racial divisions?

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And that's why you guys suck. Seriously.

It was a huge natural disaster, where people died and billions of dollars were lost.

And you turned on one of your better potential candidates because he had the audacity to actually appreciate the federal government being supportive... unlike the previous major natural disaster in New Orleans, where the response of the Republican led federal government was one of the most disgraceful moments of this nation's history.

But yea, the election was more important.

Anyone who lost respect for Christie over Sandy and Obama is a heartless asshole whose opinion doesn't matter.
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I really don't care what some pretentious internet tough guy has to say.
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You don't think he had a point..? You don't think it's ridiculous that someone decent went from being a prospect to nothing all because he admitted someone on the other side was doing good work? Isn't that what we should be striving for?
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And that's why you guys suck. Seriously.

It was a huge natural disaster, where people died and billions of dollars were lost.

And you turned on one of your better potential candidates because he had the audacity to actually appreciate the federal government being supportive... unlike the previous major natural disaster in New Orleans, where the response of the Republican led federal government was one of the most disgraceful moments of this nation's history.
But, but, don't you see? Christie HUGGED Obama! That means he got Obama cooties! The GOP can't have that!

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Anyone who lost respect for Christie over Sandy and Obama is a heartless asshole whose opinion doesn't matter.
This. Every last word of this. Such a ridiculously immature response to a serious situation.

(And of course, you know that if he, or any other Republican governor encountering a similar disaster, didn't allow Obama's help, then the GOP would use that to show that Obama didn't care about helping people in a tough time.)
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