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Old 02-28-2016, 01:02 PM   #861
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Trump tweets Mussolini quote and won't condemn KKK, yet still has the blind that are willing to let this country burn. Yay


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Trump beating Hillary in New York 41-38 according to new Sienna poll. If this is true, it can be argued PA and Michigan go Trump. Maybe more.
Could also just be due to the fact that NY is Trump's home state. (And merely Billary's adopted state)
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Trump tweets Mussolini quote and won't condemn KKK, yet still has the blind that are willing to let this country burn. Yay


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At least he doesn't support letting people die in the streets. Cruz is a champ.
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Trump beating Hillary in New York 41-38 according to new Sienna poll. If this is true, it can be argued PA and Michigan go Trump. Maybe more. I'm interested to see these state breakdowns as we get further into the election cycle. Initially I'd be shocked to see Trump within Five points of Hillary in NY. I think the Blue Wall Rust Belt would be in play from PA to MN. There is less Hispanic population in these states. Plenty of Blue Collar Dems that may crossover to Trump. These are areas that have had their manufacturing bases decimated in the past 30 years.

I live outside Wilkes-Barre Scranton metro PA. A lot of legacy Democrats whose parents loved FDR and passed the affiliation down. My step-dad has voted Democrat his whole life and is now switching his affiliation to vote for Trump. Several other coworkers doing the same thing. I know it's anecdotal by that's my report on the ground from what I'm witnessing.

The Union vote is fairly well educated when it comes to to livelihood of their businesses. Trump's acknowledgement of Trade imbalances is going a long way with these voters.


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Every election cycle, the GOP thinks it's possible to win Pennsylvania.

Every election cycle they are wrong.

This year will be no different. Urban voters from Philly and Pittsburgh will overwhelm the rest of the state, as Mrs Clinton appears to get African-American women as inspired as Barack Obama did.

If a black candidate can win working class whites twice, what's going to stop a white lady from doing the same?

Mrs Clinton does not possess the same political skills of her husband or Obama, but Mr Trump is a vastly weaker candidate than the Republicans that were soundly beaten in PA.
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The Mussolini tweet has something to do with a Gawker Twitter bot ... or something. I'm not going to pretend to understand, but it sounds like it wasn't actually a thing Trump did.

Or something.

He is, however, guilty of everything else, including being a giant orange turd.
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So, ahead of Super Tuesday, Donald Trump fails to condemn the KKK because he needs more information on them. Seriously.



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I hope I know well enough about KKK. or something.
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So, are you just suggesting that the government should pick up more of the tab on education (in other words, redistributing the costs away from college students to society as a whole) or that there's substantial way to actually cut what college costs? You mention sports (although my school is one of the few lucky ones that profits from sports and sends some of that profit over to academics) and bureaucracy as places to cut. I'm honesty not sure how much that accounts for the explosion in college costs. A lot of professors here at UT like to attack the bureaucracy (and in doing so tend to make subtle jabs at millennial-focused institutions like the Gender and Sexuality Center); I'd be curious to know how much that has actually contributed to things.

If you're mainly interested in redistributing the cost of college, not actually reducing it, I've not made my mind up there yet. Government completely picking up the tab for higher education is actually probably a pretty regressive wealth transfer, insofar as it would still likely to be relatively well-off people who would attend college under such a scheme. There's a good question about whether it's a good idea for the government to be regressively subsidizing what still amounts to positive-ROI investments for relatively well-off people. As far as negative-ROI degrees (e.g. what happens with a lot of liberal arts degrees nowadays), that's where things get interesting. There's probably a good argument that there are enough positive externalities for society resulting from such degrees to warrant some degree of government subsidization, although I'm not sure what the right amount is (more or less than there is now).

Of course, any reasonable person can agree that some of the most egregious examples of negative-ROI degrees have causes that can and should be stopped. Most prominently, it's obscene for government-subsidized loans to be flowing to predatory useless for-profit colleges.

If the government spigot is going to start flowing more to education, though, I'm much more inclined to see it flow to K-12, especially to poorer students. That's where the real inequality happens.


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I'm suggesting a combination of cutting internal costs, supplying federal funding, and restoring state funding.

I would venture to say that the bureaucracy of colleges is significant, if not necessarily a huge difference. I cannot tell you why it costs $12,000 a year (or however much) to go to a state school in PA versus $6000 in Florida -- that much I just don't quite understand. I'm not fully involved in the national picture, but I am involved in my state particularly. I know for sure that the reason tuition has inflated in Florida is because the state cut funding. I think I used my state's particular example because I wanted to paint the picture to suggest quasi-free education isn't *that* difficult to achieve, and that's without actual federal funding. In regards to how much the bureaucracy actually costs... you're usually able to see that from a higher level. Sometimes, that stuff is donation based. I'd venture to say that each individual piece isn't a big deal (saving tens of dollars per student), but the ultimate cost might be on the order of hundreds of dollars. I mean, gym fees alone cost ~$150-200 at my school.

I would also agree that a K-12 focus is more important than a higher education focus. That is, of course, where you make or break someone before adulthood. I'm currently having this very same argument on another forum with someone. I suggested that support of education systematically reduces incarceration -- only to be met with the response "so you're suggesting we should send criminals to college for free?"
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The Mussolini tweet has something to do with a Gawker Twitter bot ... or something. I'm not going to pretend to understand, but it sounds like it wasn't actually a thing Trump did.

Or something.

He is, however, guilty of everything else, including being a giant orange turd.

Gawker set up a Twitter account to try and prove that Trump will retweet anything that sounds complimentary to him. His ego fell for it and he retweeted the quote.

Just one of the 1000 reasons he's a dangerous asshole. The first time his ego is bruised what is he going to do with his new power? Lock someone up, shoot someone up?


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Anyone who thinks a Republican will take New York State is diluting themselves.
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http://youtu.be/Ixi9_cciy8w

THIS used to be the Republican Party, nothing like the cess pool it is today. Like I've said before, I really hope this election makes the GOP rethink their messaging, catering to the ignorant for so long has given you the likes of Cruz and Trump. If you don't learn from this election, then you've made yourself obsolete.


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So, ahead of Super Tuesday, Donald Trump fails to condemn the KKK because he needs more information on them. Seriously.



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Intriguing way to play it, pretend he knows nothing so that he doesn't alienate a section of his supporter base.

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I remember reading an old article (ie. decades ago?) in which Trump would supposedly read Hitler's speeches regularly.
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Someone explain to me how Super Tuesday works?
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A bunch of states hold primary elections on the same Tuesday with about 1/3 of the delegates up for the winning. If one candidate wins big they have an easier path to the nomination.

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wait KKK has the position called grand wizard? why is it so funny to me.
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Whenever I hear "grand wizard" I think of this guy:



Which is probably not what the KKK wants, so I'll keep doing it
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part V

Well, if it makes any difference, pundits this morning be apoplectic over Trump not disavowing the fucking KKK, of all things, as well as the open season on insults and put downs the GOP campaign has devolved into, as well as Cruz wondering aloud if Trump won't released his tax returns because of the Mafia.

1) Chris Christe must be eating his feelings of regret right now
2) Hillary wins, what, 40+ states against Trump?

I mean, honestly.

I think this is the result of the devolution of politics into entertainment that really came into its own via Limbaugh in the early Clinton years. A lot of bad people saw there was a lot of money to be made in what is now known as the right wing industrial media complex. And here we are, at the end.

All that said, the GOP thrives on the state level, for a variety of reasons. So I don't think the party is dead, per se. But the White House looks unattainable for them for a while, barring the unexpected.
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In a long and strange email about how he left the stove on, Alan Grayson now "feels the Bern" and will endorse Sanders at the convention. Strange cookie...
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Well, if it makes any difference, pundits this morning be apoplectic over Trump not disavowing the fucking KKK, of all things, as well as the open season on insults and put downs the GOP campaign has devolved into, as well as Cruz wondering aloud if Trump won't released his tax returns because of the Mafia.

1) Chris Christe must be eating his feelings of regret right now
2) Hillary wins, what, 40+ states against Trump?

I mean, honestly.

I think this is the result of the devolution of politics into entertainment that really came into its own via Limbaugh in the early Clinton years. A lot of bad people saw there was a lot of money to be made in what is now known as the right wing industrial media complex. And here we are, at the end.

All that said, the GOP thrives on the state level, for a variety of reasons. So I don't think the party is dead, per se. But the White House looks unattainable for them for a while, barring the unexpected.
I don't think Chris Christie has regret at all. He's a petty and vindictive person, for him it was much more important to stick it to Rubio than anything. Especially after that "disrespectful" voicemail from Rubio assuring Christie that he has a bright future in politics if he joins his team (LOL).

Rubio has now not only sunk to Trump's level but has gone even deeper. Talking about the size of Trump's hands and what it means, the spray on tan, THIS is who the establishment wants?

The Republicans are so screwed.
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In a long and strange email about how he left the stove on, Alan Grayson now "feels the Bern" and will endorse Sanders at the convention. Strange cookie...
Did he ask for a contribution so he could replace the chicken he burned (Berned?) when he left the stove on?
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Did he ask for a contribution so he could replace the chicken he burned (Berned?) when he left the stove on?

He's asking for $27, just like Bern. A fancy dinner, considering he's like... on Hilary Clinton's campaign committee or something like that.
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