2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part V

[Mack_Again]

so my OCD mom will be republican? no way.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by anitram

I'm 56% Republican. I have a weak stomach.

57% R

I'd never make it as a "True Detective."

[trojanchick99]

So Donald Trump wants the government to be able to hack your phone. Weren't Republicans all about liberty*?

*unless we are talking about a woman's liberty over her own body.


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[anitram]

I think Apple is 100% wrong in the stance they've taken here.

Legally speaking anyway.

[Mack_Again]

Apple is wrong to think that my phone contains worthy information to be stolen. I don't even have friends' numbers

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by anitram

I think Apple is 100% wrong in the stance they've taken here.

Legally speaking anyway.

It's not just about the one phone though.

The FBI is asking Apple to completely rewrite iOS to create a backdoor. Literally nobody's iPhone would ever be secure again if they do this because it would take the bad guys approximately 0.3 seconds to crack it.

It's the equivalent to the FBI demanding a master key to every American house's front door lock and publicly announcing where they keep it. It's stupid and blindingly unconstitutional, and Apple would be insane to agree to it. It would instantly kill their entire enterprise business (no company is going to buy iPhones for their employees if they have zero security).

[namkcuR]

Yeah, Apple is 100% right. This is patriot act type stuff the government is asking for, the right to invade its citizens' privacy in the name of security.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Fox News national poll has Sanders ahead of Clinton by three points. First time that's happened thus far.

Ummmm, it's Fox News. It doesn't all of a sudden become a reliable source when it says something you want it to say. In fact I don't think this is the first time, but I can't be bothered to look. Fox is so anti-Clinton is doesn't surprise me in the least bit.


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[Axver]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

ChartsMe | Is Your Brain Republican or Democrat?


believe it or not, i got Republican (57% conservative).

64% Democrat. I'm actually reasonably squeamish, and definitely don't like dead things, but for most of the test my response was just mild disgust, apathy, or "if it had to be done I'd do it".

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

ChartsMe | Is Your Brain Republican or Democrat?


believe it or not, i got Republican (57% conservative).

It told me I am 30% Green Party and I am nuts.

[anitram]

Originally Posted by DaveC

It's not just about the one phone though.

The FBI is asking Apple to completely rewrite iOS to create a backdoor. Literally nobody's iPhone would ever be secure again if they do this because it would take the bad guys approximately 0.3 seconds to crack it.

It's the equivalent to the FBI demanding a master key to every American house's front door lock and publicly announcing where they keep it. It's stupid and blindingly unconstitutional, and Apple would be insane to agree to it. It would instantly kill their entire enterprise business (no company is going to buy iPhones for their employees if they have zero security).

The legal case is considerably more complicated and the blind assertions that this is unconstitutional are generally being made by the public who doesn't really understand constitutional law.

This is a very good read, I'd encourage everyone to read it but it's fairly legalese and I will admit these sorts of things can even put a lawyer to sleep. But very interesting and well thought out.

Apple is Selling You a Phone, Not Civil Liberties: https://www.lawfareblog.com/apple-se...ivil-liberties

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Mountie On The Hill



Skating In The Street



The Ghost of Grant Fuhr

I'm on Ice

[Oregoropa]

Blinded By the Northern Lights

John Candy's Room

Hungry Horton's

70th Latitude Freeze Out

[Oregoropa]

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

so my OCD mom will be republican? no way.

I consider myself DCO the polar opposite of OCD.

[ntalwar]

Originally Posted by anitram

Apple is Selling You a Phone, Not Civil Liberties: https://www.lawfareblog.com/apple-se...ivil-liberties

It looks like the lead author is ex-NSA, so it seems biased.

[deep]

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

It told me I am 30% Green Party and I am nuts.

That's surprising, I would have never guessed 30% green party.

[Oregoropa]

Somebody has some photoshop talent. Hillary Hillary Hillary.

http://youtu.be/SiHMM-VyDug

I guess that strain makes you bark


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[mikal]

Originally Posted by bono_212

68% Conservative.

Your description sounds about on point with my political views as well.

And, yes, I have OCD and mild germaphobia. This test seems kinda...odd, to say the least.

Exactly that's the weird thing about this survey. Of course I'm going to be grossed out by maggots on meat!


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[anitram]

Originally Posted by ntalwar

It looks like the lead author is ex-NSA, so it seems biased.

Have you read anything beyond her biography?

The issue I have with this case is that people seem, by and large, unable to separate what the actual law is versus what they think the law should be. Reasonable people can argue about the current state of the law and whether it should be the case that private enterprise can be compelled to assist the government in this (potentially invasive) way. But that is a discussion separate and apart from whether the law applies today and whether interpretation of the constitution permits for it. That is where I and seemingly most people on this board disagree. That is why you have professors like Dershowitz clearly saying you have to permit for reasonable exceptions of privacy. I've said nothing of what I think should be the state of affairs.

And let's also not pretend like Apple is doing this to fight for our freedoms. It's about money for them.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Somebody has some photoshop talent. Hillary Hillary Hillary.

I guess that strain makes you bark


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Not photoshop, but it is pretty funny.