2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part V

[Diemen]

Anybody want a peanut?

Trump is very, very short on... charm!

 

[Oregoropa]

Trump is very, very short on... charm!

Perhaps you should re-think your breakfast choices

 

[Mack_Again]

Perhaps you should re-think your breakfast choices

probably doesn't contain any corn from Iowa (not even the corn used for syrup/sugar).

 

[Mrs. Garrison]

My concern at this point is that Hillary gets concerned about her chances in the general and picks someone even farther right than her as a running mate.

If Hillary is the nominee, and she most likely will be, her best bet would be to chose Bernie as her VP.

Yeah, he's a very...odd person. Like I've said before, the fact that he's a neurosurgeon troubles me greatly. I wouldn't trust him to work on me.

Actually most specialists in the MD field are kind of out there. The Neurologists who worked with both of my parents were wayyy out there. Both of them...and yet they are both very brilliant minds and i had total trust in them. I spoke to my Doc about this and he just kind of laughed and agreed with me.

And he's still better than Ted Cruz.

Absolutely!

Fuck Ted Cruz

 

[PhilsFan]

I'm a little worried that she'll do something outlandish like choose Bloomberg as her VP.

 

[Oregoropa]

probably doesn't contain any corn from Iowa (not even the corn used for syrup/sugar).

Well played

 

[Oregoropa]

I'm a little worried that she'll do something outlandish like choose Bloomberg as her VP.

Put money on Julian Castro

 

[LuckyNumber7]

If Hillary is the nominee, and she most likely will be, her best bet would be to chose Bernie as her VP.







Actually most specialists in the MD field are kind of out there. The Neurologists who worked with both of my parents were wayyy out there. Both of them...and yet they are both very brilliant minds and i had total trust in them. I spoke to my Doc about this and he just kind of laughed and agreed with me.







Absolutely!



Fuck Ted Cruz

Agreed on Hilary picking Bernie. They've got almost no beef, because Bernie's campaign refuses to smear anything about Hilary directly, aside from picking on her GS speaker fees -- which is fair given that Sanders main running point is campaign finance reform. He isn't attacking Clinton so much over it as he is saying "hey look, I don't do that." Granted, he might take a swing if he has to.

 

[deep]

Hillary won't pick Bernie or give him a cabinet post. Bernie would be a great pick to help her lose.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

If anyone read my earlier post from my district representative's email... we've got another golden one in the inbox:

Dear Christopher,

In the first season of the fascinating TV show called “The Wire,” two rival drug dealers go after each other. One shoots at another, at close range, with a sawed-off shotgun. And misses. Leading to this immortal line:

“You come at the King, you best not miss.”

The D.C. Establishment is coming after us. And they are missing. Too bad – for them.

The corporate shills who have insinuated themselves into positions of power in the unDemocratic Party in Washington have become utterly desperate. After we exposed their betrayal by opening up the undemocratic superdelegate process to We, the People, they’ve come after me, my family, and my staff, with ludicrous and blatantly false attacks.

There is a term in politics called “oppo dump.” You come up with every “opposition research” smear you can think of, and then you dump it (through co-conspirators in media) a few days before the election, hoping to confuse the voters.

But here, the Democratic politburo is S.O.L. We’re winning, and we’re winning by nine points. So now, more than six months before even the primary, they “dump” all their “oppo,” all their imaginary crap. Think of it as premature evacuation.

Just to be clear, I am not a cannibal. Nor am I a necrophiliac. And frankly, these are no more fanciful than their actual smears against me.

Barack Obama was not born in Kenya. Hillary Clinton did not kill Vince Foster. Bernie Sanders does not hold an Israeli passport. And it is so, so pathetic that the corrupt, inept bureaucrats who call themselves our “leaders” have to stoop so low as to make the same kind of baseless smirches against me.

(Is “smirches” a word? Well, it is now.)

Send an urgent contribution to my campaign today, to help me fight back against the lies and the dirty liars who tell them, in the unDemocratic Party Establishment.

###(These are button-links in the email)###
CHIP IN $10

CHIP IN $25

CHIP IN $50

CHIP IN $100

CHIP IN $250

Just today, they tried to put it out there that I’m not a “real” progressive.

Excuse you?

I’m fighting a political life-and-death struggle against a Democratic Party D.C. Establishment that has betrayed progressive principles over and over and over again, over my very loud objection. (No wonder they don’t love me.) Look at what they’ve done:

The Democratic Establishment killed the public option.
The Democratic Establishment refused to punish the banksters.
The Democratic Establishment wasted billions of dollars on bailouts.
The Democratic Establishment keeps pushing for Social Security benefit cuts.
The Democratic Establishment opposes Medicare for All.
The Democratic Establishment implemented huge tax cuts for multinational corporations.
The Democratic Establishment has shipped millions of jobs overseas.
The Democratic Establishment has taxed union benefits, and refused to put EFCA up to a Senate vote.
The Democratic Establishment has collaborated in the destruction of affirmative action.
And that’s just off the top of my head.

Look at their appalling sell-out record. Then look back at mine. You’ll see a Congressman who not only cares about working people, but gets good things done for them. Who actually delivers for progressives, and for our progressive principles of justice, equality and peace.

And them? Liars, losers, fakers and sellouts.

Make your contribution now. We can’t tolerate another victory by the unDemocratic Party Establishment against a real progressive like me. We can’t forgive them for what they’ve done, but winning is the best revenge. Donate now.

You DESERVE a Senator with Guts. And I’m going to give that to you -- whether they like it or not.

Courage,

Alan Grayson

“Eat my shorts.”

- Bart Simpson

 

[deep]

Silver has gone down the shit hole with the rest of the old school pundits on the old networks

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/02/17/nate-silver-remains-a-rubio-optimist-for-2016/

 

[Mack_Again]

I feel like it's ultimately better to keep Bernie in senate so that he can do actual work. just like Elizabeth Warren should stay in senate rather than being part of executive branch.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

I mean, come on. In a campaign emailing list he

1. Makes a poop joke
2. Declares he's not a necrophiliac
3. Openly defines a new word
4. Calls his party "liars, losers, fakers, and sellouts"
5. Signs off his email with "courage"
6. Quotes "eat my shorts" from Bart Simpson below his name

 

[deep]

This is precious

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/politics/mitt-romney-donald-trump-taxes/

 

[Irvine511]

This is precious

Mitt Romney hits Donald Trump over releasing taxes - CNNPolitics.com

omg! a new job for Mittens! attack Trump!

 

[deep]

Yes
Keep Bernie in the Senate so he can keep the same level of achievement he has had all these years. What committees does he chair or even sit on?

 

[trojanchick99]

Put money on Julian Castro

Agreed. He'd be my pick.

 

[BVS]

Put money on Julian Castro

this would be a great choice. He did good things for my city. He would attract the Hispanic vote and barring a scandal probably place the WH in the Dems hands for the next 16


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[deep]

If I was Hillary this is the guy I would want

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/marco-rubio-nevada-win-states

This guy is pathetic, what a fuckin joke! To call this guy the GOP Obama is an insult.
I'd like to see him chase a chicken down a Kenyan trail for his dinner.

 

[cobl04]

No way she picks Sanders or he'd agree to be her running mate. No way

 

[bono_212]

Haha. I mean, in all fairness, even though Ted Cruz is legitimately scarier than Donald Trump, Donald Trump is more worth being ashamed of and leaving the country. George W. Bush isn't worth picking up your bags and leaving. Donald Trump is a manipulator and an actor, and he's acting like a racist, xenophobic pig and it's working. That's definite grounds to actually be ashamed.

Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm trying to kinda emphasize the fact that I'm not joking around.

As an American, I am ashamed that so many of my fellow citizens have bought into a campaign fueled by hate and fear. I'd move to Canada but as a native Californian, I don't tolerate cold well.

I truly hope that if Trump wins the nomination, whatever is left of the moderate Republican party jumps ship and forms their own third party.

And THIS, is really the bottom of the situation for me, right here. The damage is done. I'm troubled to the core by this election cycle, and you can't really go back, now. There are this many people supporting him, and that won't change.

 

[clerks]

Trump is mostly acting. Real crazy people already in congress blocking Supreme Court nominee. Cruz is true one to watch out for btw. Should be happy trump is taking out the R nuts from within. Hillary vs trump and she should win 69% of vote.


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[Hewson]

If anyone read my earlier post from my district representative's email... we've got another golden one in the inbox:

I hope you clicked "Chip in $250"

 

[Irvine511]

If Cruz underperformes on Super Tuesday, expect an exodus of big names to Rubio.

Everyone hates him anyway.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

To call this guy the GOP Obama is an insult.
I'd like to see him chase a chicken down a Kenyan trail for his dinner.

You never cease to amaze

 

[LuckyNumber7]

I hope you clicked "Chip in $250"

I *did* vote for him in 2012.

 

[cobl04]

When's the next GOP debate? I'd like to watch.

It is starting to get scary now. I think I'd prefer to see Trump the nominee/POTUS over Cruz just because he's a fucking moron with nothing aside from words. Cruz is as evil but actually has political nous and is able to outline policy outside of "we need to build a wall" or "shut down the internet". He's also more evangelical (has a huge lead over Trump with evangelicals in Texas).

I'd take Rubio over both. Fuck Carson, he seems like he's stupider than Trump. Kasich, that'd be my pick.

Just hoping that Bernie can somehow defy all the odds. Something about Hilary Clinton is really smarmy/robotic/dangerous/unnerving to me. But fuck she'd be a hell of a lot better than any GOP bloke.

 

[gump]

I missed the earlier discussion, but here are my two cents (or, more like it, two dimes) as a half-outsider (a foreigner that has lived here for 7 years). Way too many people in this country are deluding themselves thinking Donald Trump is a so-far-out-of-the-mainstream aberration in US political culture, that was propelled to where he is because of a disgruntled, uneducated minority. But step away and look at it from some distance, and it's harder to see the differences in some of the core beliefs of a Donald Trump and (i) most other Republicans, or even in many areas, (ii) the general public at large.

On (i): as much as centrists would like to think that there is still such a thing as a financially conservative, socially moderate Republics with at least some reasonable ideas, this ship has long sailed. Don't go any further than John Kasich - supposedly the logical, moderate, almost liberal Republican in this race. Or, if you want, think of John McCain: the guy was for so many years portrayed as a centrist, willing to cross the aisle, ran a ridiculously mean campaign and picked Sarah fucking Palin for his ticket. People have to accept that the Republic party is basically a science-denying, mildly-xenophobic, misogynistic group of people who also happen to be quite disdainful of minorities, uncharitable to the poor and ridiculously unaware of proper foreign policy.

On (ii), and perhaps the thing that in my view is not properly addressed: a number of ideas that would be seen with a lot of suspicion in most of the (democratic) world are actually part of the political culture. "Make America Great Again" is not a Trump thing. It's deeply rooted in the idea of American exceptionalism that is so obnoxious for most people around the world (and the lack of humility it engenders). The over-militarized approach to everything from the Super Bowl to law enforcement. These things are shared across most of the political spectrum, really.

In sum: Donald Trump is not an aberration. He's just more theatrical than most, but he might even be even more centrist than most Republicans. He just happens to represent a brand of populism mixed with ignorance that is actually more common than people are willing to admit. Donald Trump is Charles Barkley in politics.

 

[Oregoropa]

When's the next GOP debate? I'd like to watch.
.

I think its tomorrow

 

[trojanchick99]

In Texas so I'm sure it will devolve into an old fashioned shootout.

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