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Old 02-13-2016, 10:21 PM   #321
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The national mood is anti-establishment, that is why Bernie is up and Hillary is down,

GOP establishment candidates began up and went down, outsiders have come up

why will this change?? wishful thinking?

No, not wishful thinking at all. I'm not voting for any of them, either way.

I just think that, without a stable clear cut leader (i.e. if it were anyone but Trump in 1st), the winner is unpredictable. We haven't gotten out of the gimmick states yet. Super Tuesday is generally a good day to start projecting winners.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:22 PM   #322
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Trump wins ST.
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Trump wins ST.

And how does everyone else do? Who is still in the race?

Better yet, what happens if we see a brokered convention?
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If Trump wins SC against Cruz, it will be a model of how southern states will vote. I think Trump will run away with Super Tuesday. Cruz should win Texas. Some of those are winner take all primaries. He has an easy path to hit the clinch threshold. I don't think a brokered convention is likely.


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I think the bottom line is that Trump this far ahead is unsustainable. I doubt it will last.
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If Trump wins SC against Cruz, it will be a model of how southern states will vote. I think Trump will run away with Super Tuesday. Cruz should win Texas. Some of those are winner take all primaries. He has an easy path to hit the clinch threshold. I don't think a brokered convention is likely.


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yeah, about right

Super Tuesday is 2 weeks away, and Trump will win more of it, if not most of it. Cruz wins Texas, one big state, Kasich wins Ohio, one good size state, Rubio's Make A Wish foundation trip ends when Trump wins Florida. Most of this happens in the next 30-45 days. What will happen to make Trump crash in the polls, Jeb and his opposition team have had 100 million dollars to find something and take him out.

All this wishful thinking is pointless, keep hope alive?? what will change in 2-4 weeks?

Bernie bros have more reason to be hopeful than the anybody but trump loons people.
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Sane people look at Bernie Sanders and go "okay, I get it. He'll never win but fine, he appeals to a segment of his party"

Sane people look at Donald Trump and go "how fucking stupid are these people?"
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Still don't understand the fascination with constantly comparing Sanders and Trump.
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Still don't understand the fascination with constantly comparing Sanders and Trump.

Due to the fact that special interest groups/lobbyists are known to finance campaigns and thus control government, people look at characters like Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, or Ron Paul with lots of respect because they run campaigns via small individual contribution (or in Trump's case, self funding).

So, they're more likely to be genuine in their approach, believe what they say, and ultimately fulfill their promises.

One of the biggest thing the voters are sick of is the machine of politics.
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I wasn't referring to so much how their campaigns are financed, but more so their respective positions on the political compass relative to the other candidates. In the sense that they're both represented as "extremes" by centrists/Clinton supporters - in which, I can still understand in Trump's case although I've reconsidered my evaluation of him as a fascist in recent times.
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I've reconsidered my evaluation of him as a fascist in recent times.

I'm not sure what made you feel the need to reconsider this.


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It's not so much that he's suddenly become less reprehensible in my view, far from it, more so a reevaluation of what he really is. I try not to use fascism as a descriptor for every far-right position, generally.
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Sanders is a modern day FDR, Trump is a modern day George Wallace.


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Today's college education only qualifies people to be Uber drivers
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I wasn't referring to so much how their campaigns are financed, but more so their respective positions on the political compass relative to the other candidates. In the sense that they're both represented as "extremes" by centrists/Clinton supporters - in which, I can still understand in Trump's case although I've reconsidered my evaluation of him as a fascist in recent times.

We get it. You're sooooo much more far left than Bernie Sanders.

At some point, you're just going to have to get over it and accept the fact that, for the U.S., he's pretty far left. Noticeably so, versus the norm.
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Vlad brings an international perspective, ok
We have posters in here from Canada and Australia, again ok, their life experiences influence their opinions, again good, more discussion from various points of view.
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I'm qualified to be modern slave in labs, I hope after graduating college.
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slow down

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...deal-socialism


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Vlad brings an international perspective, ok
We have posters in here from Canada and Australia, again ok, their life experiences influence their opinions, again good, more discussion from various points of view.
I would just like more conversation and less talking down to people/short quips.
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