2016 US Presidential Election Thread IX

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Again, she is not a liberal.

That's right. Even at her likely her most conservative, she was the 11th most liberal Senator. Voted with Bernie 93% of the time, and several times those different votes were her voting to the left of bernie on guns and immigration.

But you keep on believing the story that's been fed to you
 
11th most liberal Senator is pretty meaningless. She voted for no child left behind, the Iraq War, etc.

Most elected Democrats in Congress hardly qualify as liberals and most of those that have served in the Senate historically do not. You're basically comparing Clinton to the most corporate friendly wing of that party which is far to the right of most Democrats and certainly all liberals.
 
Well, President Obama has finally entered the fray. I'm kinda giddy about this. He will wipe the walls with Trump.






But the convention isn't for another month!!! The delegates haven't voted!!! MEHHHHHHHHHH


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I'm really curious who both candidates pick as their VP

Would love Warren, but figure Clinton will probably pick someone a lil more center.


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don't worry guys, the far left wing is on the case! voter fraud! that's what facebook tells me!


Sanders Could Have Won California, But 2/3 of his Votes Aren’t Counted


According to popular actress Frances Fisher, a lawsuit is being prepared to require the counting of all the provisional ballots. If this lawsuit is successful, the actual vote count is expected to become known and Sanders will likely have a landslide victory in California.

The theft of California hasn’t deterred Sanders from his course. He has promised to fight on while noting it is a steep uphill climb. Given all the states where vote fraud in favor of Hillary Clinton has been allowed to swing primaries from Sanders to Clinton, it is in fact a steep uphill climb to restore democracy and force the now undemocratic Democratic Party to nominate the man the vast majority of American voters have voted for or tried to vote for.

It has been learned from poll workers that 50% to 90% of voters who were supposed to have been eligible to vote in the Democratic primary were told they would have to vote provisional ballots. There were two irregularities leading to the forced use of provisional ballots instead of regular ballots. The first was that previously registered voters’ names had been removed from the rolls. The second was that someone (in most cases, not the voter) had marked them as vote by mail voters but they had received no ballot in the mail. Oddly, virtually all of those not allowed to vote and forced to vote provisional ballots were Bernie Sanders supporters.

The next oddity is even more curious. Poll workers in Los Angeles and Orange County report that Bernie won the electronic votes in their precincts by well over a 2 to 1 margin, the opposite of the result of the vote count. The contrast between this and the outcome is indicative of vote-flipping. Also the outcome.. outcome does not match what anyone who has conducted polling in this state knows: Below the election night video is a video about black box voting (Hacking Democracy), The Democratic Party has essentially endorsed this video, showing it at various conventions and another video of a computer programmer confessing to creating a vote-flipping program.

If you add the lower figure of 50% of voters who were not allowed to vote regular ballots for Bernie to the votes he received, you wind up with a substantial Sanders landslide victory in California. The primary beneficiary of the fraud is Hillary Clinton.

As for provisional ballots, acclaimed BBC reporter, author and election fraud expert Greg Palast (pictured to the right) calls them “placebo ballots.” Greg is the reporter who exposed the voter fraud in Florida in 2000. Nightline used his footage in covering the story. Here is from Greg’s article, “How California is being stolen from Sanders right now.”

“As I’ve previously reported, provisional ballots are “placebo” ballots that let you feel like you’ve voted, but you haven’t. Provisional ballots are generally discarded.”

At the California Democratic Convention most of the elected delegates were “Bernie or Bust.” Ask yourself, when Sanders gets enthusiastic crowds of thousands in California (sixty thousand according to police in Oakland alone) compared to laid- back crowds of hundreds for Clinton, who voted for Clinton? Ask your neighbors, co-workers and fellow students if they voted for her and then start asking how she supposedly won the election without the support of the voters. Or just look at Alameda County (Berkeley, Oakland), where Sanders was greeted by a hundred thousand active supporters, where Clinton is very unpopular and where Clinton’s percentage and Sanders percentage appear to be the exact reversal of what the residents of that county know to be the case. If you walked into any store or group setting, other than a Clinton gathering, and asked who was going to vote for Clinton, you would find that nobody or maybe one or two people would be considering voting for her. Almost all the rest would be planning to vote for Bernie Sanders. We know. At the Justice Gazette, reporters did just that.

Poll workers in Orange and Los Angeles County have reported that Bernie won the electronic votes in their precincts by well over a 2 to 1 margin. So how does this translate into a victory for Clinton? Ask yourself why an excited crowd of thousands came to the election night event of a loser when this kind of crowd has never come to the event of a primary loser in California’s history. Perhaps this is because Sanders didn’t lose. Votes can be flipped in less than a minute by someone walking into the Registrars office. Watch Bev Harris’s documentary Hacking Democracy and the video of a confession on the creator of a program designed to do just that below.
Prior to going into the California primary, it was known that Sanders was going to insist that the Democratic National Convention nominate the winner of the California primary. Clinton is very unpopular in California and it would have been impossible for her to acquire the votes to win legitimately. There was only one way for Clinton to win and that was to rig the election. Those running the Democratic Party have made it clear, following the known rigging of elections in other states, that they either consider election fraud and rigging a proper way to win a nomination or don’t care if a candidate wins this way.
 
seriously, the woman is just corrupt

a big piss about Trump University really, how stupid are people, quite stupid

Hillary's supporters, even in here have said, yes, she is shady, sure she has done things, but I don't care, just terrible that people have such low standards,

Hillary on Clinton Foundation Disclosures: "Were There One Or Two Instances That Slipped Through The Cracks? Yes" | Video | RealClearPolitics

Obama has his detractors, many hysterical, but no one can say he was corrupt and have any real evidence to back it up. I do believe in the Bush/ Cheney administration their was corruption, especially with Cheney, not so much with W himself, just incompetence. But with Hillary we have intentional corruption and lies.
 
a big piss about Trump University really, how stupid are people, quite stupid


Who are the stupid people?

The ones who attended and squandered their savings? Or the ones pretending it was just another one of his long list of honest endeavors?



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don't worry guys, the far left wing is on the case! voter fraud! that's what facebook tells me!


This was really tiring to read.

What I don't get is the thinking of the media bias. Wouldn't the media just eat up something like this? Wouldn't it be a HUGE story if it were true???

The media will expose anyone else, be it a secret lover, tax evasion, or drugs.....but voter fraud by the millions for a candidate running for POTUS....nah, sweep it under the rug

Occam's Razor


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This was really tiring to read.

What I don't get is the thinking of the media bias. Wouldn't the media just eat up something like this? Wouldn't it be a HUGE story if it were true???

The media will expose anyone else, be it a secret lover, tax evasion, or drugs.....but voter fraud by the millions for a candidate running for POTUS....nah, sweep it under the rug

Occam's Razor


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dude, you must be tired because if you hadn't noticed the CORPORATE media is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. they've been instructed/ordered to turn away from the truth and get elected the politicians already selected by the bankers. it doesn't matter if there's a negative story about Clinton, it's all part of their narrative. it doesn't matter what actually happens because she's already won.
 
Thank you. My eyes are open now.

Namaste


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I'm really curious who both candidates pick as their VP

Would love Warren, but figure Clinton will probably pick someone a lil more center.


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My mom was drunk the other night watching the Sanders speech and she bet me a hundred dollars he would be the VP. The Clintons are all about control so I feel safe in winning that bet. Hopefully she'll remember making it.

Only way it happens is if the polling gets worse in the next month and she doesn't want the Sanders folks staying home in November. But even then, I don't think Clinton Inc. would bring him into the fold.


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Johnson now at 9% in the latest polling averages despite only a fifth of the country even knowing who he is...a bit more name recognition over the next few months and we're going to have ourselves a set of three person debates in the fall. :up:
 
I do like Johnson's stance on weed. Of course the guy is high literally ALL THE TIME so there's that

But he has stated he would withdraw from pot while in the White House.

Watch Samantha Bee's interview with him (second half of interview is next Monday)

I appreciate his honesty, but once the population becomes more aware of him, he'll drop so fast in polls. Except with stoners haha

I voted for him in 2012, and he was not this much of a space cadet back then.


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I love how there are about four competing definitions of "liberal" going on in just the last few pages of this thread.
 
I do like Johnson's stance on weed. Of course the guy is high literally ALL THE TIME so there's that

But he has stated he would withdraw from pot while in the White House.

I wonder if he is a GamerGater too.
 
I dealt with one of those crazy Bernie supporters who was alleging that Hillary didn't actually win California. I shouldn't have engaged the crazy but was in a crappy mood. She also was convinced that Other ama was never going to endorse Hillary. Sadly she unfriended our mutual friend so I couldn't gloat.

As for VP. The favorite seems to be Caine from VA. I've also heard Julian Sanchez and Corey Booker.

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I dealt with one of those crazy Bernie supporters who was alleging that Hillary didn't actually win California. I shouldn't have engaged the crazy but was in a crappy mood. She also was convinced that Other ama was never going to endorse Hillary. Sadly she unfriended our mutual friend so I couldn't gloat.



The phrase im hearing to categorize such folks is "Green Tea Party."
 
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