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Old 01-10-2016, 09:17 PM   #141
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Is Donald really a conservative by book-definition or is he just saying insane things?
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There's no way Trump is a 'movement conservative' in any coherent way. He'll play to the reactionaries but he's mostly just a troll.
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:59 PM   #143
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Is Donald really a conservative by book-definition or is he just saying insane things?

Wow, for once Mack makes sense.

NO, Trump is not a conservative. Glenn Beck of all people, exposed this truth. It has nothing to do with policy or principle; he hates the same people they hate. Period


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Agreed on all accounts
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:32 PM   #147
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what does that even mean?
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That means I'm rolling my eyes at BVS making it personal (completely unprovoked).
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/12...-ted-cruz.html

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In 1997, Michael Wayne Haley was arrested after stealing a calculator from Walmart. This was a crime that merited a maximum two-year prison term. But prosecutors incorrectly applied a habitual offender law. Neither the judge nor the defense lawyer caught the error and Haley was sentenced to 16 years.

Eventually, the mistake came to light and Haley tried to fix it. Ted Cruz was solicitor general of Texas at the time. Instead of just letting Haley go for time served, Cruz took the case to the Supreme Court to keep Haley in prison for the full 16 years.

Some justices were skeptical. “Is there some rule that you can’t confess error in your state?” Justice Anthony Kennedy asked. The court system did finally let Haley out of prison, after six years.
Ted Cruz should be in prison.
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Two years for stealing a calculator? This country really needs to get its prison system under control in a hurry, and no one really seems to want to talk about it.
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You can probably buy all the calculators in the state of Texas for the sum it costs to keep someone in prison for two years.

The justice system in this country is shameful. It's unfair, it's ineffective, it's costly, it punishes the poor and minorities. And nobody does anything about it because somehow it means you are "soft on crime".
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That means I'm rolling my eyes at BVS making it personal (completely unprovoked).
oh alright.
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You can probably buy all the calculators in the state of Texas for the sum it costs to keep someone in prison for two years.
I think that's a great alternative

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Sanders now leads in Iowa...but we all could have predicted this would eventually happen by the time the caucus rolled around...once people make the decision to support Sanders which is pretty much always done based on the issues rather than the personality, they unsurprisingly stick with him and it leads to him constantly gaining on Clinton everywhere the closer we get to these election dates. The big questions of course are still whether he has enough time to flip more states and not lose so badly in places of South Carolina and just how many black supporters will come around to the guy (I think latinos will be a little more open minded since they aren't constantly saying "But Clinton served the black President!" in their heads).

Also, O'Malley might not make the next debate.

Quinnipiac poll: Sanders surges to retake lead in Iowa | TheHill


And, not surprisingly, Sanders fares much much better in both state and national matchups against Republicans than Clinton does as evidenced in all of these NBC polls from a few days ago...she has far more baggage.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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(I think latinos will be a little more open minded since they aren't constantly saying "But Clinton served the black President!" in their heads).

Them blacks stick together, right pa?


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Fun fact, a Krüger was the leader of the SS.
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I hate how quick people are to accuse someone of racism when they bring up identity politics...Clinton served under the Obama administration and that has brought her practically the entire support of this country's black populace at the moment. That's all I'm saying. I personally believe that if Obama had just cast her adrift and not hired her that she wouldn't have that advantage at all with the community and might even be worse off right now given the racially charged moments of her '08 campaign...
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I hate how quick people are to accuse someone of racism when they bring up identity politics...Clinton served under the Obama administration and that has brought her practically the entire support of this country's black populace at the moment. That's all I'm saying. I personally believe that if Obama had just cast her adrift and not hired her that she wouldn't have that advantage at all with the community and might even be worse off right now given the racially charged moments of her '08 campaign...

The way you stated it was not about identity politics or support. You basically said they won't think for themselves because she served the black president.


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And I meant it. Not for everyone, as more educated voters are always going to base their decisions on the actual issues. I'm sure most of the people heavily involved in the Black Live's Matter movement will also be taking a closer look at things before making their decisions.

But in general? The least educated group in the entire country and the only core constituency that still gives Obama insanely high approval ratings supporting Clinton simply because she worked for the first black President? Yes, I believe that's the case. And no, it isn't racist to think so.

Other than Clinton trying to call Sanders weak on guns because he came from a rural state and opposed one significant law, where else does she actually offer more to America's most screwed over community that Sanders doesn't? Nowhere.

It's similar to Lena Dunham recently claiming that she supports Clinton because of the issues and not because she's a woman. And what issues exactly would that be, Lena? You're against Medicare for all, less foreign intervention/drone strikes and stiffer Wall Street regulation? Her support is entirely because Clinton is a woman.
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Her support is entirely because Clinton is a woman.
Thank goodness we have a man to clear this up for us and for Lena.
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