2016 US Presidential Election Pt. IV - Page 36 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-02-2016, 10:44 AM   #701
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 41,232
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anitram View Post
I really don't understand all the glee about Trump being a loser (well, ok, I do, he's an unbearable oaf) without acknowledgment that Ted Cruz is far, far worse. He's a true believer.

True, but for me it's the hypocrisy factor. Cruz' supporters, as uninformed as they are, are at least consistent and "principled" in their beliefs. Trump just representatives the racist hypocrites that called ACA socialism but now support someone who wants a single payer solution, and scream religious freedom but want Muslims monitored?!


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
__________________

BVS is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 11:33 AM   #702
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Philadelphia
Posts: 19,218
Local Time: 01:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Salome View Post
I though that the substantial claim against Bernie Sanders is that his ideas bend too far to the left for some of his own party, let alone that any Republican in Congress will ever vote for anything he puts forward?
Well, there's greater context to what the "substantial claim" is in that article, which is more about how the campaigns were talking about one another in Iowa as opposed to the broader picture that you are talking about. But you are correct. There's a reason Clinton keeps saying "I get things done." The implication is that Sanders cannot because every idea he presents will be summarily dismissed due to his leftist leanings.

But again, my point is more about Clinton than it is about Sanders. Everyone keeps getting swept up in talking about what each candidate symbolizes. But for someone who spends so much time harping on her record and experience, very few people seem interested in actually talking about Clinton's record and experience. Painting her as the more centrist alternative to Sanders and thus the more electable option for the Democrats is an awfully friendly depiction of what she actually seems to be.
__________________

PhilsFan is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 11:46 AM   #703
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: DC
Posts: 68,195
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Hillary is actually not a very good candidate. She's highly unlikeable, has questionable ethics, and her experience and track record is incredibly overstated.

That she's even in a dog race with an actual socialist says more about her than it does about Sanders or the party.

I have to think Biden is kicking himself for not jumping in.
Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 12:03 PM   #704
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
Mrs. Garrison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: pig farming in Bolivia
Posts: 7,325
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anitram View Post
I really don't understand all the glee about Trump being a loser (well, ok, I do, he's an unbearable oaf) without acknowledgment that Ted Cruz is far, far worse. He's a true believer.

THANK YOU.

As bad as TRUMP! is, and oh boy.....anyway as bad as he is Ted Cruz666 is probably one thousand times worse. He is much much much much much much much much much much worse.

Also, it's only Iowa. Some people are acting like TRUMP! has lost the GOP nomination. He really wasn't supposed to win Iowa anyway was he? The evangelical candidates were always polling higher until very very recently when he pulled ahead, albeit not by much. Iowa hasn't picked the GOP nominee since when...Reagan? Bush?

I am starting to think that with Hillary being vulnerable the GOP could win. For that reason, i am terrified about some of these prospects. Most of the establishment guys don't terrify me so badly, but Cruz would our ultimate demise. Far worse than even a Huckabee or Santorum! I don't think there are even appropriate words available for me to describe the absolute HORROR it would be for us (and the ROW) if this awful mistake were to be elected. Let's not lose sight of that here.

Go Sanders/Clinton!!
Mrs. Garrison is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 12:25 PM   #705
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: southwest USA
Posts: 3,302
Local Time: 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Hillary is actually not a very good candidate. She's highly unlikeable, has questionable ethics, and her experience and track record is incredibly overstated.

That she's even in a dog race with an actual socialist says more about her than it does about Sanders or the party.

I have to think Biden is kicking himself for not jumping in.




Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
bobsaget77 is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 12:52 PM   #706
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA
Posts: 4,144
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Not for nothing, but the idea that in the year 2016 we’re deciding who gets to run for the most powerful position in the western world by having people stand in groups in a gym, and/or folded slips of paper is fucking frightening.


I actually did it when I lived in Nevada in 2012. I thought it was a fun democratic exercise. You got to see live human beings express their views. Make friends with people in your neighborhood. Beats arguing with trolls on non-FYM Internet comment sections before going to vote on Election Day.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
Oregoropa is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 01:32 PM   #707
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Not for nothing, but the idea that in the year 2016 we’re deciding who gets to run for the most powerful position in the western world by having people stand in groups in a gym, and/or folded slips of paper is fucking frightening.
That's right Iowa Hawkeye cauci is irrelevant, every once in awhile this blind pig finds an acorn, not this time.
Trump is hardly out of the picture.
Bernie can win two more states where white socialists makeup the democratic vote, that's it.
deep is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 01:40 PM   #708
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregoropa View Post
I actually did it whelctionsen I lived in Nevada in 2012. I thought it was a fun democratic exercise. You got to see live human beings express their views. Make friends with people in your neighborhood. Beats arguing with trolls on non-FYM Internet comment sections before going to vote on Election Day.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
cauci are not a true representations of elections, where people fill out a ballot in privacy and then are done. the participation is always much less that an election,

sure it can be fun, so are 'no pants' parties
deep is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 01:44 PM   #709
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Philadelphia
Posts: 19,218
Local Time: 01:30 AM
When talking about how awful Cruz is, it should also be noted that he wears two watches. Both wrists have a watch. This guy's fucking out of his mind.

PhilsFan is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 02:09 PM   #710
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 41,232
Local Time: 12:30 AM
One's set for the dark ages, where his followers are living.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
BVS is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 02:28 PM   #711
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: DC
Posts: 68,195
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Left arm Texas, right arm Hell.
Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 02:30 PM   #712
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: DC
Posts: 68,195
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison View Post
THANK YOU.

As bad as TRUMP! is, and oh boy.....anyway as bad as he is Ted Cruz666 is probably one thousand times worse. He is much much much much much much much much much much worse.

Also, it's only Iowa. Some people are acting like TRUMP! has lost the GOP nomination. He really wasn't supposed to win Iowa anyway was he? The evangelical candidates were always polling higher until very very recently when he pulled ahead, albeit not by much. Iowa hasn't picked the GOP nominee since when...Reagan? Bush?

I am starting to think that with Hillary being vulnerable the GOP could win. For that reason, i am terrified about some of these prospects. Most of the establishment guys don't terrify me so badly, but Cruz would our ultimate demise. Far worse than even a Huckabee or Santorum! I don't think there are even appropriate words available for me to describe the absolute HORROR it would be for us (and the ROW) if this awful mistake were to be elected. Let's not lose sight of that here.

Go Sanders/Clinton!!
Trump is a troll, but Cruz is truly a despicable human being.

That said... There is a history of despicable Evangelicals winning Iowa and then flaming out. So Cruz winning is not as big a deal as if ClownCar McOrangeFace had won.
Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 02:36 PM   #713
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Hewson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Your own private Idaho
Posts: 32,061
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Hillary is actually not a very good candidate. She's highly unlikeable, has questionable ethics, and her experience and track record is incredibly overstated.

That she's even in a dog race with an actual socialist says more about her than it does about Sanders or the party.

I have to think Biden is kicking himself for not jumping in.
The Democratic party is kicking themselves for not having a reasonable viable national candidate under the age of 65.

May be 08 in reverse this time with a younger more vital candidate like Rubio beating a tired war horse like Hillary.
Hewson is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 02:48 PM   #714
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
Mack_Again's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: definitely Osaka
Posts: 7,124
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilsFan View Post
When talking about how awful Cruz is, it should also be noted that he wears two watches. Both wrists have a watch. This guy's fucking out of his mind.

just use phone to look up time. he should realize that fact that phone is much more accurate and convenient.
Mack_Again is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 03:05 PM   #715
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Hewson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Your own private Idaho
Posts: 32,061
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilsFan View Post
When talking about how awful Cruz is, it should also be noted that he wears two watches. Both wrists have a watch. This guy's fucking out of his mind.

Aside from the 2 watches, he just doesn't look right in flannel.

Makes his face seem even more punchable.
Hewson is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 03:21 PM   #716
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 09:30 PM
the one on the right is mostly likely a fitness tracker wristband.

they're great, I can do five miles without leaving my couch
deep is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 03:26 PM   #717
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 09:30 PM
and if this is true??

Carson accuses Cruz camp of spreading false rumors on campaign suspension | Fox News


and it could be, the nature of cauci, one could steal a few per centage points from Carson that would have put Cruz from two, up to number one and even have added to Rubio's numbers, that said the polling may have been correct if this was a conventional primary election and not a weird ass thing where a bunch of people get in a room and could have been lied to to change their vote.
deep is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 04:48 PM   #718
ONE
love, blood, life
 
digitize's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York / Dallas / Austin
Posts: 14,076
Local Time: 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Hillary is actually not a very good candidate. She's highly unlikeable, has questionable ethics, and her experience and track record is incredibly overstated.

That she's even in a dog race with an actual socialist says more about her than it does about Sanders or the party.

I have to think Biden is kicking himself for not jumping in.

Indeed, sadly. It irks me to be supporting her, but I am, because Bernie is way to the left of what I'm comfortable with, and the Republicans are all nutjobs.


Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference
digitize is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 04:52 PM   #719
Blue Crack Addict
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 18,455
Local Time: 01:30 AM
Cruz appears to be getting dirty on his campaign, much like Dubya did in 2000. This is terrible news. I sincerely believe Donald Trump would make a better president than Ted Cruz. That's a scary thought. I hate Marco Rubio, but anything on the right over Ted is crucial.

As far as Clinton/Sanders goes, after continuing to read into Clinton's shadiness... I just can't do it. I wasn't going to register for a primary vote since I'm in a closed state, but I think I will now, for Sanders.
LuckyNumber7 is offline  
Old 02-02-2016, 05:13 PM   #720
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
Mrs. Garrison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: pig farming in Bolivia
Posts: 7,325
Local Time: 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
Trump is a troll, but Cruz is truly a despicable human being.

That said... There is a history of despicable Evangelicals winning Iowa and then flaming out. So Cruz winning is not as big a deal as if ClownCar McOrangeFace had won.
I am still going with the idea that Hillary's vulnerabilities could help the GOP win this....therefore im hoping whatever the GOP nominates is the least despicable pile of shit of the bunch. Currently i have to say that is TRUMP! since the non-despicable bunch (Jeb! Kasich, Christie, or Paul) really don't have much of a chance.
__________________

Mrs. Garrison is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×