2016 US Presidential Election Pt. IV

[cobl04]

Originally Posted by Axver

And before I turn in for the night, here's something for the American posters - an introduction to one of your more colourful ex-pats:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_O'Malley

Remind me to look at this again tomorrow. Fuck that's funny.

Though - and I'm kind of serious when I say this - the ALP not going back to including the 'u' makes me hate them and never want to vote for them again. It is extremely annoying and I hate writing it.

[Kieran McConville]

There's one virtue to Labor keeping out the 'u'; nobody is ever in any doubt about what country or what party you're discussing. I mean, it's obviously not UK Labour.

[Mack_Again]

Is King O'Malley related to Martin?

[Kieran McConville]

And there are worse things a movement could retain in the name of modernity. Hello, eugenics.

[Kieran McConville]

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

Is King O'Malley related to Martin?

Yes, yes he is.

[Vlad n U 2]

Originally Posted by cobl04

I'm sure he is. I haven't really looked into him because I've just been put off by the look of him, which is dumb, I know. But I just can't shake this feeling that I have that it comes off disingenuous. You like him?

I'm not a great fan although I acknowledge that he is the furthest left a prominent presidential hopeful can realistically get at this point in time.

Originally Posted by cobl04

Also, (and I'm coming from a state of ignorance about him here) but people say that the Bern is A SOCIALIST, so I'm a little surprised he's done so well? I'd have thought his ~extremism~ would have counted him out a long time ago? Again, ignorant, but I'm surprised there's a large enough groundswell supporting him.

Originally Posted by Kieran McConville

Well he's not so much a socialist, as a democratic socialist (if that). After 2008, I'm amazed someone like him isn't doing even better than he is. America might, stereotypically, run scared at the S word, but come on. There is unfinished business. And there is a native populist tradition, that isn't wholly owned by the Right.

He's a fairly standard social democrat who'd fit quite comfortably on the left faction of the Labor party here.

He might seem an extremist relative to the others, but it's more so the mainstream's gradual drift to the right.

[cobl04]

Did you read the article I posted? Thoughts?

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Axver

And before I turn in for the night, here's something for the American posters - an introduction to one of your more colourful ex-pats:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_O'Malley

The most amazing thing about him being that he's still alive and just dropped out of the presidential race after getting less than one percent in the Iowa democratic caucus.

[BVS]

As we've seen in here; both extremes have folks living in a bubble. The Trump bubble was burst last night. The Sanders bubble I think still has enough to cling onto.

My prediction: Trump will lose another state, throw a tantrum and drop out. His minions will whine "media bias", stay home, and as many have said hand Clinton an easy victory.


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[Vlad n U 2]

Originally Posted by cobl04

Did you read the article I posted? Thoughts?

I generally agreed with it. There are several topics on which Sanders is particularly poor at.

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by Hewson

The most amazing thing about him being that he's still alive and just dropped out of the presidential race after getting less than one percent in the Iowa democratic caucus.

oh dear

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Axver

So at least five districts awarded a delegate with a coin toss. In all five, Clinton won.

Clearly this is proof that the moneyed interests are unequivocally hostile to Bernie.

Now you're sounding like a real Bernie Bro! ;-)

[Oregoropa]

This tweet sums it up. American politics at its finest 2016.




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[Hewson]

"President Punchable Face"

[Mack_Again]

"president Venezuela"?

[anitram]

I really don't understand all the glee about Trump being a loser (well, ok, I do, he's an unbearable oaf) without acknowledgment that Ted Cruz is far, far worse. He's a true believer.

But I guess none of that matters now that the powers that be have annointed Rubio, who will look like a geeky 3rd grader debating Hillary Clinton.

[PhilsFan]

The Electability Spin Machine | Rolling Stone

The most substantial claim is that Bernie Sanders has some fans on the Internet who are assholes. Which puts him in exclusive company with literally everything. The same thinkfluencers who argue that Bernie Sanders needs to take personal responsibility for people he's never met being rude to journalists on the Internet (who are already berated and ridiculed by fans of everything else) are also filling column inches by doing the human-dignity equivalent of reaching a whole arm through a buzzing garbage disposal to latch onto yet another slime-slicked take festering in the U-bend and explaining why Hillary Clinton does not need to explain anything further. She doesn't need to justify that Iraq War vote again, or the destabilization of Libya, or that desire to go hog wild in Syria, or that 1990s support for welfare reform that hit women hardest, or those 1990s tough-on-crime policies she endorsed along with private prisons, or those speaking fees at Goldman Sachs or that opposition to reinstating Glass-Steagall.

[...]

This is the dim path where a career pro-gay-rights feminist looms as a misogynist and an enemy to identity politics because some people with egg avatars sent some tweets. Where a candidate who personally earned millions in speeches and whose campaigns were significantly funded by Wall Street firms that nearly broke the world is equivalent to the candidate whose whole campaign opposes them because, apparently, he took money from a nurses' union. Where a legitimate candidate of the working class will be hammered over and over in an authenticity battle with a campaign that weekly releases some "How do you do, fellow kids?" embarrassment and whose Instagram manager is a woman with her own HBO series. Where the real progressive candidate has already pledged not to raise any middle-class taxes and once called people on welfare deadbeats.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Not for nothing, but the idea that in the year 2016 we’re deciding who gets to run for the most powerful position in the western world by having people stand in groups in a gym, and/or folded slips of paper is fucking frightening.

[Salome]

I though that the substantial claim against Bernie Sanders is that his ideas bend too far to the left for some of his own party, let alone that any Republican in Congress will ever vote for anything he puts forward?

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Salome

I though that the substantial claim against Bernie Sanders is that his ideas bend too far to the left for some of his own party, let alone that any Republican in Congress will ever vote for anything he puts forward?

That's pretty much the gist of it. But alas, some will spin anything to match their argument.