2016 US Presidential Election Pt. III - Page 40

U2democrat · 12-08-2015, 07:13 AM

I can't remember the last time I posted here, but my goodness what a circus.

BVS · 12-08-2015, 07:23 AM

Hey

good to see you again!

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Pearl · 12-08-2015, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kieran McConville

What's he gonna do, kneecap his former supporters after the caravan moves on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad n U 2

He's going to apply another coat of spray tan to himself, and subsequently evolve to a deadlier human lifeform.

Ha ha, no ☺️

It's just that I've known quite a few narcissistic people and they do live on their own planet, and do not take defeat or humiliation like the average person does.

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Moonlit_Angel · 12-08-2015, 03:17 PM

Hi, U2democrat

!

Off the subject of Trump for a moment, did anyone catch last night's "Daily Show"? Jon Stewart was a guest on there to discuss renewing the Zadroga bill that gave 9/11 first responders healthcare and compensation. He did NOT have good things to say about Mitch McConnell (the big barrier to getting this bill renewed). And the way politicians reacted to his visit to Capitol Hill was infuriating and embarrassing.

Also, we learned what happened to a few of the people who were part of the panel of first responders that appeared on "The Daily Show" back in 2010, when Stewart first brought attention to this issue. Sadly the news was not good.

Anywho, so if you need to write McConnell or other politicians who so far aren't on board with renewing this, go for it.

Mack_Again · 12-08-2015, 03:24 PM

it's not funny that people aren't even talking about Bernie at this point.

deep · 12-08-2015, 03:33 PM

Some jokes don't last as long

deep · 12-08-2015, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U2democrat

I can't remember the last time I posted here, but my goodness what a circus.

you have been in my thoughts and prayers

Oregoropa · 12-08-2015, 03:35 PM

Found this interesting observation in online discussion. May explain the "Method behind the Madness" of Trump. His campaign tactics are way outside the box.

Say something incendiary that magnetically draws all media attention his way, flooding the news cycle with stories about Trump™ and denying his opponents screen time. Since Trump set "the agenda", opponents are forced to respond to Trump as if he is already the leader. He can maneuver the conversation any way he wants since he already has the high ground. He's the ring-leader of the circus, and impresses that his opinions are the only ones that matter. Anyone who wants to get heard has to ride his coat-tails

In Trump's own book The Art of the Deal he outlines a classic negotiation tactic of opening with an extreme offer. By starting any deal with an extreme bid, you take control of the conversation by establishing yourself as the "demander" (the person with power is usually the one making demands), psychologically cowing the people at the table. If the people at the table are willing to resist, they'll spend the whole time fighting you back down to what you actually want and you won't be able to lose much ground on your end. If the opposition is weak, they'll give you more than you expected. This is exactly why he opened up with the Border Wall, and why he's now proposing we ban Muslims from entering the country. He set an extreme position, and can then be "walked down" from it whenever he wants, and look like a fair and reasonable man willing to compromise.

Salome · 12-08-2015, 03:45 PM

In any civilized country "proposing we ban Muslims from entering" would be regarded as an outlandish, insane notion.
If anyone would mistake that for compromise they need to get their head checked.

Moonlit_Angel · 12-08-2015, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

He set an extreme position, and can then be "walked down" from it whenever he wants, and look like a fair and reasonable man willing to compromise.

Yeeeeeeeah, when I look at Trump, I don't think "fair and reasonable", and I won't think that even if he does back down from his "let's ban Muslims" rhetoric. The fact he said such a thing in the first place proves he's not interested in being fair and reasonable. And I have no desire to try to compromise with someone who spouts the crap that he does.

His tactics are nothing more than stupid, obnoxious bullying maneuvers. I don't want to play games, I want someone who is sane and has logical, rational suggestions on how to get things done. Playing games and competing to find out who can say the most outlandish things is what's responsible for the messes we find ourselves in.

david · 12-08-2015, 04:03 PM

I read that his comments should get him disqualified from running?

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Oregoropa · 12-08-2015, 04:35 PM

This is official press release Monday. I'm not arguing for or against. Just submitting as evidence to the court of FYM as evidence of what he said. Direct from his website.

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

Mr. Trump stated, "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again." - Donald J. Trump

martha · 12-08-2015, 04:36 PM

I wondered how his supporters would "explain" his latest racist bullshit. Now I know.

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**Headache in a Suitcase** · 12-08-2015, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Trump truly is a godsend and I really am hoping he's his party's nominee. Down ballot disaster and it will tarnish the Republican Party as outspoken racists for the rest of our lives (rather than white guys who use a lot of coded language). Keep at it, Donald!

Not for nothing, but the democrats were once the racist party, and they survived. And that really wasn't that long ago. Mind you a completely different time, but still.

The GOP will survive this, and if anything it may force them to make much needed changes.

That might take another decade or so, but they'll bounce back.

david · 12-08-2015, 04:44 PM

Well, I just read the White House press secretary already made a statement about Trump disqualifying himself.

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Oregoropa · 12-08-2015, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

it's not funny that people aren't even talking about Bernie at this point.

They should, considering FBI director Comey is not letting up in his investigation of Clinton and his email dumps.

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 12-08-2015, 04:45 PM

So should we get rid of all the Catholics because some Evangelicals like to shoot up abortion clinics?

This guy is worse than ass juice.

BVS · 12-08-2015, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martha

I wondered how his supporters would "explain" his latest racist bullshit. Now I know.

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You're just attaching an ism to him, Trump is just speaking the truth. He is THE voice of the antiestablishment.

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Mrs. Garrison · 12-08-2015, 04:46 PM

They will get their shit together after 8 years of Hillary, perhaps. Or they will keep touting outrageous bullshit and then accompany that with shutting down the government & all the typical stuff. Then the Dems will run and elect the first openly GLBT potus after Hillary's two terms are up.

Mrs. Garrison · 12-08-2015, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

So should we get rid of all the Catholics because some Evangelicals like to shoot up abortion clinics?

This guy is worse than ass juice.

WRONG. Only Cruz is worse than Ass Juice.

Though it's kind of like the NFC East is currently, where they are all in some perverted contest to be the king of the shit parade.

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U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 03:03 AM	I can't remember the last time I posted here, but my goodness what a circus. __________________

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12-08-2015, 03:45 PM	#789
Salome you are what you is Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 22,070 Local Time: 05:03 AM	In any civilized country "proposing we ban Muslims from entering" would be regarded as an outlandish, insane notion. If anyone would mistake that for compromise they need to get their head checked. __________________ “Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.” ~Frank Zappa

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12-08-2015, 03:17 PM	#784
Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,774 Local Time: 10:03 PM	Hi, U2democrat ! Off the subject of Trump for a moment, did anyone catch last night's "Daily Show"? Jon Stewart was a guest on there to discuss renewing the Zadroga bill that gave 9/11 first responders healthcare and compensation. He did NOT have good things to say about Mitch McConnell (the big barrier to getting this bill renewed). And the way politicians reacted to his visit to Capitol Hill was infuriating and embarrassing. Also, we learned what happened to a few of the people who were part of the panel of first responders that appeared on "The Daily Show" back in 2010, when Stewart first brought attention to this issue. Sadly the news was not good. Anywho, so if you need to write McConnell or other politicians who so far aren't on board with renewing this, go for it.

12-08-2015, 03:24 PM	#785
Mack_Again Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: definitely Osaka Posts: 7,124 Local Time: 10:03 PM	it's not funny that people aren't even talking about Bernie at this point.

12-08-2015, 03:33 PM	#786
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,603 Local Time: 07:03 PM	Some jokes don't last as long

12-08-2015, 03:35 PM	#788
Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 10:03 PM	Found this interesting observation in online discussion. May explain the "Method behind the Madness" of Trump. His campaign tactics are way outside the box. Say something incendiary that magnetically draws all media attention his way, flooding the news cycle with stories about Trump™ and denying his opponents screen time. Since Trump set "the agenda", opponents are forced to respond to Trump as if he is already the leader. He can maneuver the conversation any way he wants since he already has the high ground. He's the ring-leader of the circus, and impresses that his opinions are the only ones that matter. Anyone who wants to get heard has to ride his coat-tails In Trump's own book The Art of the Deal he outlines a classic negotiation tactic of opening with an extreme offer. By starting any deal with an extreme bid, you take control of the conversation by establishing yourself as the "demander" (the person with power is usually the one making demands), psychologically cowing the people at the table. If the people at the table are willing to resist, they'll spend the whole time fighting you back down to what you actually want and you won't be able to lose much ground on your end. If the opposition is weak, they'll give you more than you expected. This is exactly why he opened up with the Border Wall, and why he's now proposing we ban Muslims from entering the country. He set an extreme position, and can then be "walked down" from it whenever he wants, and look like a fair and reasonable man willing to compromise.

12-08-2015, 04:03 PM	#791
david ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 10,946 Local Time: 08:03 PM	I read that his comments should get him disqualified from running? Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

12-08-2015, 04:35 PM	#792
Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 10:03 PM	This is official press release Monday. I'm not arguing for or against. Just submitting as evidence to the court of FYM as evidence of what he said. Direct from his website. (New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women. Mr. Trump stated, "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again." - Donald J. Trump

12-08-2015, 04:36 PM	#793
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,556 Local Time: 08:03 PM	I wondered how his supporters would "explain" his latest racist bullshit. Now I know. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

12-08-2015, 04:44 PM	#795
david ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 10,946 Local Time: 08:03 PM	Well, I just read the White House press secretary already made a statement about Trump disqualifying himself. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

12-08-2015, 04:45 PM	#797
Headache in a Suitcase Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: With the other morally corrupt bootlicking rubes. Posts: 74,635 Local Time: 11:03 PM	So should we get rid of all the Catholics because some Evangelicals like to shoot up abortion clinics? This guy is worse than ass juice.

12-08-2015, 04:46 PM	#799
Mrs. Garrison Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: pig farming in Bolivia Posts: 7,325 Local Time: 10:03 PM	They will get their shit together after 8 years of Hillary, perhaps. Or they will keep touting outrageous bullshit and then accompany that with shutting down the government & all the typical stuff. Then the Dems will run and elect the first openly GLBT potus after Hillary's two terms are up.